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Mar 13, 2009 18:14 |  #376

Well the limited flame orange color was the deciding factor in getting the 800 over the 1600. :) Got the vagabond 2 and some cybersyncs. Now the UPS waiting game begins. The shots in here were enough to convince me to start looking into shooting with strobes.


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Mar 13, 2009 20:56 as a reply to  @ post 7474660 |  #377

Just found this thread and after reading EVERY post on it (yeah it took a while), i have a few questions. I currently have a AB1600 and a 2 different size umbrellas (both are white and black and are either reflector or shoot through). I'm wanting 2 more bees due to an upcoming photo shoot with a celebrity and several of his cars. Here are my questions-

-I was looking at the AB400's and wonder if they are enough power for outdoor shots yet enough for indoor studio type shots?

-Will they be bright enough for automotive photography? (which is my main line of work but have used natural light up to this point)

-is it possible to just use an 12volt inverter to plug 3 AB's into instead of using the battery pack? I always have my car near the shoots i do so i wasnt sure if it would pull too much power.

I'm sure i'll have more questions once these are answered! LOL


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Mar 13, 2009 23:51 |  #378

1) No, the b400's will not be enough to work with outside. You'll nee at least a b800.

Cannot use just a 12 volt inverter because what you need for the AB strobes are a pure sine wave inverter. It's made to handle the kind of power that the AB's take when they recycle, without hurting the strobes internals.


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Mar 13, 2009 23:53 |  #379

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Mar 13, 2009 23:54 |  #380

Thanks for the info! I was wondering if it would be worth the extra $$ or not. I'll just use extension cords for now then get the vagabond down the road.


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Mar 13, 2009 23:55 |  #381

My main thing is the big shoot i have with one guy and a few cars in the background, but i'll use them in the future a ton im sure.


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Mar 14, 2009 21:20 |  #382

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Mar 14, 2009 22:35 |  #383

aha i was going to ask you today gr how you shoot cars since i have some people wanting me to shoot theirs. hmm interesting you just shoot the ab's bare?


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Mar 15, 2009 23:47 |  #384

You really don't need soft lighting for cars. If you use an umbrella or softbox, that just means if you do have hotspots in the paint, they'll just be larger. Shooting bare is just fine and you'll get "more" light out of them. You won't have to worry about a modifier taking any light.


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Mar 16, 2009 02:23 |  #385

Here's a shot from today's shoot:

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Mar 16, 2009 09:46 |  #386

care to share the set up and possibly the settings for that last shot in teh playground? Thats awesome! I just orderd two 800's a vagabond II and cybersynces to go with the AB1600 i currently have.


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Mar 16, 2009 10:37 |  #387

I wish I could trade one of my b800's for a b1600.

Very basic set up. Not sure if I took a shot of this set up. I'll look.

Beauty dish boomed out over them. B800's to the right and left to rim


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Mar 16, 2009 14:14 |  #388

Well it's done! Just ordered two orange AB800's (figured i would get the special editions...LOL), one trigger, two AC receivers, one battery receiver and a vagabond. And two cary bags for the lights. Damn the wife is gonna kill me! LOL BUt now i got a full set up it looks like.

Whats the deal with weights on the stands for outdoor use? I know inside on a flat floor its not an issue, but what about outdoors, etc?


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Mar 16, 2009 14:57 |  #389

that is for if its windy the stand will not be knocked down.


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Mar 16, 2009 17:42 |  #390

I like to keep my vagabond on the stand which the boom arm is on. Keeps the stand weighed down a bit more. Good thing to have.


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