Rick,
Thanks for the really quick reply, I appreciate that.
By "glassed" lenses, I really meant the conversion adapters that e-Bay sells that have the glass in it, so it will focus to infinity, not the add-on filter type lens that you 'may be' referring to, I know they're junk, I bought one years ago for my camcorder. heh
Heck, ANY lens that isn't really that expensive would be good, adapter or not, I can't get a good wide-angel shot, not the way I like to anyway.
I realize this is crossing over into wide-angle/panoramic territory, and I apologize, but I'd really like to get one that was quality like you guys are using, but as a wide-angle, if that makes sense.
This is the adapter I was referring to... http://www.amazon.com …ics&qid=1237862405&sr=1-7
Thanks, and I hope (again) this isn't against any rules, I usually follow rules rather than break them! 
So the 16mm/2.8 Zenitar fisheye would be a good one for a XSi?
I ask that because my 18-55mm does a really bad job as far as connecting each shot as a pano.
I guess it's either that, or nothing though, one can't get too much lower than that, I do have an 8-24mm on my Nikon 990, that worked fine, buit we're talking different format cameras too.
I'm just talking out loud, this thread has got me to salivating at the thought that it would work, I had already convinced myself a year ago not to try this route, I had no idea that shots could look as good as these.
I'll check into the Zenitar though, I'd much prefer a cheaper alternative though, I just spend my savings on a couple of lenses and a flash, so I'm kind'a broke. heh
Thank you!
Randy
rdenney wrote in post #7584748
Don't buy a wide-angle conversion lens that goes on the front of a regular lens. If you are disappointed with the kit lens (and you should not be--really), you'll really be disappointed with a conversion lens.
But the conversion lenses are fisheye lenses, and you can do MUCH better with a 16mm/2.8 Zenitar fisheye. That Russian lens costs about $150, and you can get them with EF mounts, though they are all-manual lenses including manual focus and manual apertures. Stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8, they are excellent. It will give you about the same coverage as a 14mm rectilinear lens on a small sensor, without the most extreme fisheye effects that normally sit in the corners of a full-frame image. It is quite usable.
Rick "just don't expect miracles at f/2.8" Denney