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Buying on Ebay, good, bad or neutral

 
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Mar 22, 2009 22:33 |  #1

Everyone likes a bargain as do I.

Ebay always comes to mind as a place to find "that undiscovered bargain".

What kinds of experiences have you guys had with lens buying on Ebay?

Would you recommend it, or just go somewhere reputable like Adorama or B & H?

I was thinking about buying on this forum's buying and selling board but I'm not allowed yet.

I participate in other forums and it seems more collegial and less risky to deal with forum members.

Anyway, what are your opinions of buying on Ebay? Or do you have any sources you'd care to reveal. I've heard good things about KEH.

BTW: If you have a lens that you think would compliment my XSI 18-55 kit lens well, please PM me. Especially if it's a good deal:)




  
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Mar 22, 2009 22:48 |  #2

One nice thing about ebay is the limited protection offered by using paypal. If you buy on ebay and use paypal they will protect you from some fraud or disputes you cant work out with the seller.

I love POTN but I bought a couple of items here recently with mixed results. I bought a Sigma 100-300 F/4 lens from another member and it was defective, when I tried to get the member to honor the sale he refused. I'm now spending an additional $250 just to ge the lens fixed. Many people buy and sell here with great results but like anything else buy with caution, many people lack scrupels.


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Mar 22, 2009 23:01 |  #3

I have not had any problems buying there but I'm careful about what and who I am buying from.


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Mar 22, 2009 23:04 as a reply to  @ Bucster's post |  #4

I have bought loads of stuff off ebay over the years, including my 20D and a 100-400L lens. I have had a couple of deals where things weren't 100% as expected (not the camera or the lens, they are both great) but out of over a thousand purchases that isn't a bad record. The little bit of money lost on those deals has been saved many, many times over on all the rest of the stuff I have bought.

I am a big ebay fan, but you do have to be careful. Read the descriptions carefully, only buy expensive items from people with lots of quality feedback and a high positive rating, pay by paypal and fund it from a credit card (then you have protection from paypal and if that fails you can take it up with your card provider and claim from them).

DON'T buy from anybody new who is suddenly offering lots of high dollar items (particularly if they are 'buy-it-now' at very low prices), don't pay by Western Union and don't buy from somebody who won't agree to let you pick an item up in person. You don't actually have to go and get it, but asking if you can is often a safety net. If they say no it could be because they don't actually have the item.

Use a bit of common sense and it is very safe to buy from ebay, the vast majority of the scams are blindingly obvious.

My verdict would be 'good'. I base that on my experiences buying over a thousand items, and selling about five thousand, over the nine years I have been using ebay.




  
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Mar 22, 2009 23:04 |  #5

rnoldh wrote in post #7577622 (external link)
Everyone likes a bargain as do I.

Ebay always comes to mind as a place to find "that undiscovered bargain".

What kinds of experiences have you guys had with lens buying on Ebay?

Would you recommend it, or just go somewhere reputable like Adorama or B & H?

I was thinking about buying on this forum's buying and selling board but I'm not allowed yet.

I participate in other forums and it seems more collegial and less risky to deal with forum members.

Anyway, what are your opinions of buying on Ebay? Or do you have any sources you'd care to reveal. I've heard good things about KEH.

BTW: If you have a lens that you think would compliment my XSI 18-55 kit lens well, please PM me. Especially if it's a good deal:)

wherever you buy you need to buyer the seller. i'm comfortable buying from ebay, or china or even merchants in new york :D.

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Mar 22, 2009 23:42 |  #6

ed rader wrote in post #7577815 (external link)
wherever you buy you need to buyer the seller.

Howzat again?




  
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Mar 23, 2009 03:04 |  #7

xarqi wrote in post #7578049 (external link)
Howzat again?

whoops.... buy the seller :D.

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Mar 23, 2009 04:41 |  #8

I've bought off here and ebay and have found people on POTN to be better than ebay. But I would advise to meet up and look at what your buying before buying as it can save problems later.


  
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Mar 23, 2009 05:06 as a reply to  @ Emington's post |  #9

i always buy from ebay -

heres the way you do it

Find Item

look at pictures and desciption

Ask seller a question about item - is there any scratches - is there all the pages in the instruction book ect..

just somthing to get them to awnser - this shows its a reaL person and not a bot seller (usualy fake goods)

ask them questions that you want to know - - if they lie paypal will refund you

always find out everything before you bid

if you dont recive or its wrong - contact seller - if they dont reply try again giving 3 days to reply

if they dont file a paypal complaint - if they still dont respond after 5 days take it up with paypal - if paypal reject your claim for whatever reason contact your card company - most are insured against fraud - some 1 lieing about somthing your buying is fraud - you may have to report it to police to get a crime number - make sure you tell them you have been a victim of fraud or they will tell you its a cival mater - MAKE SURE YOU GET A CRIME NUMBER for credit card company

protect yourself - let paypal protect you and your card company

you should never get scamed on ebay


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Mar 28, 2009 08:38 |  #10

There is some very good advice in this thread :cool:

I am looking to purchase two 50D's (one for the g/f) ;)
I am still wondering how the ebay sellers offer such a great price on a factory sealed camera and full manufacture warranty?

The prices are much cheaper than online retail shops like amazon or B&H. I thought buying online was cutting out the middle man, thus better prices. Not the case when ebay prices are brought into the picture.

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Mar 28, 2009 09:29 |  #11

I have bought a few things on ebay and some were better then others. I never had a real disappointment. I have found though that prices really run up on ebay, sometimes higher then list price for good stuff like L lenses. It may be people bidding from other countries where the prices for everything are higher or it could be bidding fever or sheer stupidity but you have to be careful.


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Mar 28, 2009 10:53 |  #12

I'll buy but I no longer sell on ebay. Their feedback system leave sellers open for extortion imo. That said I recently purchased a 2408WFP and the seller has made Zero communication with me. The only message I got was an automated shipping notification 4 days after the auction. Its supposed to be here Monday and I debating whether to leave a neutral or not. I mean come on "Gonna ship on the xxth" or "Here's your tracking number". Asking too much?


  
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Mar 28, 2009 11:40 |  #13

Personally I avoid fleabay like the plague. Do they offer protection, well to some extent. The last Item I bought that I never received I paid $825. Took 4 months to get $225 and that was that. In the end I Paid $600 to get a huge hole in my pocket and a headache. 10 years ago Fleabay was a decent place to shop, now its the most scammed place there is and high end camera equipmet is among the highest scam rate. Seller has high feedback? Better look closely, recently a sale for high end camera gear went south, 33K positive feedbacks as a powerseller. Problem is the seller did used auto parts and his account was hijacked. Now there is a screwed buyer and seller and a scammer with a fatter wallet. Fleabay went from a place where regular people just wanted to sell off their unused stuff to a place full of scams and people who watch too many infomercials trying to make a million off of fleabay. If you do a seach for a particular item and are looking for a private seller who is just a regular joe it may take you an hour of weeding through the buy it now entrepreneurs .




  
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Mar 29, 2009 16:13 |  #14

eth3rton wrote in post #7616828 (external link)
I'll buy but I no longer sell on ebay. Their feedback system leave sellers open for extortion imo. That said I recently purchased a 2408WFP and the seller has made Zero communication with me. The only message I got was an automated shipping notification 4 days after the auction. Its supposed to be here Monday and I debating whether to leave a neutral or not. I mean come on "Gonna ship on the xxth" or "Here's your tracking number". Asking too much?

yes, I think you are... providing a tracker within 4 days isn't great,
but I don't think it justifies a negative or neutral... If I don't hear from
a seller, after say 24 hours, I shoot them a question for seller, and at that
point, they usually get back to me.


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Mar 29, 2009 16:29 |  #15

I usually try the reputable sites first, then ebay it. Ebay steals are pretty rare, and I find myself pretty lucky to get a LNIB 5D2 kit for well below retail. As long as I deal with non-shady characters, I'll continue to use ebay. The only time I've been burned was when I bought from a 0 feedback seller (stupid me), but I eventually received the item.


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