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Elinchrom D-Lite Trigger Help

 
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Mar 28, 2009 11:00 |  #1

Hello All,

I was wondering if someone could help me out, at the moment I'm considering purchasing a studio light and at this time the Elinchrom D-Lite 4 Head looks appealing.

I have no knowledge of this area so I thought I would download the manual, unfortunately I am still none the wiser.

I would like to trigger the head using a Cactus V2s, looking at the Elinchrom site and a UK site, it seems I require the following cable;
http://www.warehouseex​press.com …/default.aspx?s​ku=1004350 (external link)

However, if I take a look in the manual and looking at pictures of the back of the head, it would appear to be a 3.5mm mini jack - This seems to tell me I would require the following;
http://www.warehouseex​press.com …/default.aspx?s​ku=1004476 (external link)

The latter goes against what Elinchrom say I need, however it appears the cable has the wrong type of connection when looking at the manual and pictures.

Could someone please be kind enough to shed some light on this for me?

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Mar 28, 2009 14:20 |  #2

HI Jason,

All of the current Elinchrom strobes (D-LIte, BXRi, BX, FX, RX) use a standard 1/8" (3.5mm) miniphone jack to receive sync. Depending on the trigger or camera sending sync you need the appropriate connector on that end and the other end terminates in a 1/8" (3.5mm) miniphone plug. These plugs and jacks are of the 'mono' variety, meaning they use 2 conductors.


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Mar 28, 2009 20:00 |  #3

so you are saying a basic headphone jack with two male ends would work with a cybersync


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Mar 28, 2009 20:06 |  #4

yokotas13 wrote in post #7619408 (external link)
so you are saying a basic headphone jack with two male ends would work with a cybersync

Headphone implies a 3 conductor (stereo) protocol. Sync typically uses 2 conductors, or what would be called a mono connector.

I don't own Cybersync's so I don't know which connector goes on that end but the 1/8" (3.5mm) mono miniphone plug/jack is used to feed sync to an Elinchrom D-Lite.


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Mar 28, 2009 20:33 |  #5

but the location of the two rings are the same on the 2 and 3 ring jacks (mono and stereo obviously) just ht third is added further down the plug. the cybersyncs use the same plug that is on the jack of the elinchrom.

im asking becuase i am debating the dlite4 over the AB800s


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Mar 28, 2009 21:15 |  #6

yokotas13 wrote in post #7619560 (external link)
but the location of the two rings are the same on the 2 and 3 ring jacks (mono and stereo obviously) just ht third is added further down the plug. the cybersyncs use the same plug that is on the jack of the elinchrom.

im asking becuase i am debating the dlite4 over the AB800s

If you want to make sure that the sync cable you use works, get the mono version and not the stereo version. You would think that a stereo cable should work with any mono plug but that's not necessarily the case. For example, if you use a stereo cable to connect an AB strobe to a PW remote, nothing is going to happen when you trigger the remote. The strobe will only fire when a mono cable is used. This tells you that the mono plug used by AB does not contact the same ring as the mono plug used by PW.


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Mar 28, 2009 21:22 |  #7

I found out 1 funny trick, use ur flash 480 or 580 and set it to manual 1/128 then turn the flash head to ur back and turn on the slave cell on the strobe. It can trigger like wireless, kinda cool.




  
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Mar 29, 2009 04:17 |  #8

TMR Design wrote in post #7617854 (external link)
HI Jason,

All of the current Elinchrom strobes (D-LIte, BXRi, BX, FX, RX) use a standard 1/8" (3.5mm) miniphone jack to receive sync. Depending on the trigger or camera sending sync you need the appropriate connector on that end and the other end terminates in a 1/8" (3.5mm) miniphone plug. These plugs and jacks are of the 'mono' variety, meaning they use 2 conductors.

That's brilliant, at least I think I was along the right track.

So using the Cactus V2s, as shown in the picture below, I would definately need the following cable?
http://www.warehouseex​press.com …/default.aspx?s​ku=1004476 (external link)

IMAGE: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HuaLCljWJz8/SQhBpUpnXeI/AAAAAAAAADI/euGTHPAjt1E/s400/IMG_4673dpp.JPG

I would just like to ensure that I order the correct items all together, I wouldn't want the D-Lite sat at home while I return an item for the correct version.

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Mar 29, 2009 09:43 |  #9

You are linking to a 5 metre cable. You want a short 30cm cable.




  
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Mar 30, 2009 03:28 |  #10

Indeed, but I would like to know if this (external link) is the correct cable before I order.

Certain things are hard to come by in the UK, The Flash Centre is Elinchroms UK Agent - This is the selection they have;
http://www.theflashcen​tre.com/syncronisation​-c126.html (external link)

So if the above cable is correct, then I may source a third party cable, but all this will be a waste if it's the wrong type.

EDIT: I didn't read the flash centre link correctly: For use with newer Elinchrom heads (RX/FX/BX/D-Lite)

So I just need to source this type of cable then.

Thank You All,


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Mar 30, 2009 04:04 |  #11

Elinchrom have their own unique style of sync lead which connects via screw connection. Newer models also have a 3.5mm jack which is smaller than other makes such as Bowens usually use. I'm not sure if the D-Lite still use the older screw lock type but if trying to adapt a cable with a larger jack all you need is the 3.5 adaptor which will then allow you to use the larger (I think its 1/4") jack. If you have trouble finding one try here :
http://www.studioflash​.co.uk/default.asp (external link)


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Mar 30, 2009 06:02 |  #12

snapzz wrote in post #7627734 (external link)
Elinchrom have their own unique style of sync lead which connects via screw connection. Newer models also have a 3.5mm jack which is smaller than other makes such as Bowens usually use. I'm not sure if the D-Lite still use the older screw lock type but if trying to adapt a cable with a larger jack all you need is the 3.5 adaptor which will then allow you to use the larger (I think its 1/4") jack. If you have trouble finding one try here :
http://www.studioflash​.co.uk/default.asp (external link)

Graham,

None of the current Elinchrom monolights except for the RX series use an amphenol connector. I intentionally did not mention this connector so as not to confuse the issue. The older Elinchrom analog strobes used that connector and the RX have it as well as the 1/8" (3.5mm) miniphone jack.

The information given earlier in this thread is correct.


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Mar 30, 2009 11:34 |  #13

TMR Design wrote in post #7627946 (external link)
Graham,

None of the current Elinchrom monolights except for the RX series use an amphenol connector. I intentionally did not mention this connector so as not to confuse the issue. The older Elinchrom analog strobes used that connector and the RX have it as well as the 18" (3.5mm) miniphone jack.

The information given earlier in this thread is correct.

Sorry if you thought I was trying to contradict you. I only mentioned the Elinchrom connector as Dork Knight had asked about it, perhaps I shouldn't have bothered.


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Mar 30, 2009 11:51 as a reply to  @ snapzz's post |  #14

No biggie. He asked about the cable and wondered if that was the right one. We then told him which cable was needed and the specification of that cable. I was just trying to avoid confusion by bringing that cable back into the discussion when it was the wrong one based on the gear described.


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Mar 31, 2009 02:31 |  #15

Thanks for the info all, it just gets a little confusing when the manual tells you one thing, the Elinchrom website tells you something else, and two UK retailers also have different info on the cords.

Anyway, in preparation I opted for the following which I believe is correct;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk …65%3A12|39%3A1|​240%3A1318 (external link)

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