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Apr 06, 2009 21:57 |  #16

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Better is such a subjective word. The picture will have more information in it so it has a wider latitude when it comes to cropping and such. But for uses like the web, printing to 8x10, emails, photo frames, both cameras have way more resolution than those devices use so you would see a difference.

The biggest practical use for the extra resolution is for wildlife photography where getting close is sometimes difficult and cropping is a necessity. The 50Ds extra pixels really help here. I have a few samples I can post up if your interested in seeing them.

ok thats a big part of my picture taking is far off wildlife, so yes cropping will be a factor! and definatly yes id love to see some of your pic samples!:D


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Apr 06, 2009 22:53 |  #17

a friend of mine is telling me id be better off with a 300 Alpha sony than the 50d. im sure the 50d has quite a bit up on the sony, what would be the most outstanding diffrences?


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Apr 06, 2009 22:59 as a reply to  @ fishguts's post |  #18

google: 300 Alpha Sony vs Canon 50D


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Apr 07, 2009 00:02 |  #19

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ok thats a big part of my picture taking is far off wildlife, so yes cropping will be a factor! and definatly yes id love to see some of your pic samples!:D

I found two pics that are close to the same conditions. The targets are about the same distance away and both were taken in horrible lighting, one on a heavy overcast day and the other just before sunrise. Both have been processed so it's not a good comparison for pixel noise but it does show what the extra pixels will do for ya. Anyway, both are 800x800 crops of the originals.
The 40D pic was ISO200, f/8, 1/500 at 400mm. The 50D pic is ISO800, f/8, 1/320 at 400mm


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Apr 07, 2009 02:22 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #20

Both very good cameras that will produce good results for you but what lenses do you have?Might be a idea to go for the 40d and some good glass.


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Apr 07, 2009 02:34 |  #21

With the 50D that good glass will be better(micro adjust) you can see the screen(LCD is like a monitor screen) More pixils for cropping , and just as good if not better AF...Rich

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Apr 07, 2009 02:49 as a reply to  @ Rich S's post |  #22

Is that a 50d crop? if so what % and what lens? can you also post full image uncropped.


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Apr 07, 2009 02:49 |  #23

fishguts wrote in post #7681303 (external link)
i was just about to the point of ordering my 40d this weekend. but now ive been reading were the 50d may be a easyer camera to run/learn on. would it be easyer to learn on? and easyer to run. im upgrading from a xt.

No it's not easier learn on 50d than 40d. 50d actually have few more feature you have to learn than 40d. lol.


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Apr 07, 2009 03:02 |  #24

I have to say the resolution of the 50D DEMANDS good glass, cheap lenses will not resolve the sensor. I had reservations about the 50D but it is a good camera and IQ is also pleasing, cropability for birds and wildlife is a bonus. The screen is amazing.


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Apr 07, 2009 03:03 |  #25

50-100% The original is in Raw and a Tiff file 300mm f/4L IS lens. From Maui 10 days ago. Surfer were 500-1000ft out.


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Apr 07, 2009 03:07 |  #26
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The person who told you that the 50D would be easier to learn on may have been thinking about the new "creative auto" feature.

The CA mode gives a shooter a bit more control than regular "auto" and may be quite helpful for some one who does not yet fully understand how the aperature settings effect the background blur/sharpness and how the exposure compensation works.

Honestly that mode is crap...I can't figure out how to operate it properly :lol:

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I have to say the resolution of the 50D DEMANDS good glass, cheap lenses will not resolve the sensor.

That's just a myth, a highly misunderstood concept. Better glass = better images, but the sensor on the 50D does give more resolution than previous cameras. And way better ISO control


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Apr 07, 2009 08:13 |  #27

Karl Johnston wrote in post #7682961 (external link)
That's just a myth, a highly misunderstood concept. Better glass = better images, but the sensor on the 50D does give more resolution than previous cameras. And way better ISO control

Yup, I agree. If a lens takes good pics on the 40D it will take just as good pics on the 50D. The notion that 50D images look worse than the 40D with the kit lens isn't valid.




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Apr 07, 2009 22:12 |  #28

on the shooting modes of both. they have the User def. 1,2and 3 is that were you can program in a group of custom settins that you may be using a lot? like say have one set for a sunny day were your gonna be using a long focal lenght? and say another for fairly close up action shots?


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Apr 08, 2009 03:34 |  #29

Karl Johnston wrote in post #7682961 (external link)
Honestly that mode is crap...I can't figure out how to operate it properly :lol:


That's just a myth, a highly misunderstood concept. Better glass = better images, but the sensor on the 50D does give more resolution than previous cameras. And way better ISO control

Not a myth, my much loved 70-300 IS doesnt quite resolve for the 40D sensor, and it is a sharp lens. All depends how close you look and for what you use your images. Resizing a "not quite sharp enough" shot to web size and then adding USM will be more than adequate for alot of people.


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Apr 08, 2009 03:37 |  #30

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Yup, I agree. If a lens takes good pics on the 40D it will take just as good pics on the 50D. The notion that 50D images look worse than the 40D with the kit lens isn't valid.

No one says they look worse, just up close not as sharp. If a lens can resolve for the 40D why the hell should it be capable of resolving for the 50D with extra 50% resoluton? Are lenses magic all of a sudden "Hey I am mounted on a 50D I better out resolve myself now!"...?:lol:


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