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Strobist Vs Studio strobes - please help me decide

 
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Apr 09, 2009 13:16 |  #16

I can shoot F64 full power on my Nikon SB28 and still have excellent light.

I want to get some softbox, beauty dish's now for them :)


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Apr 09, 2009 13:50 |  #17

Mix and match them. Get at least 1 good strobe and some speed lights. You have the power when you can use it, plus the versitility of speedlight when you need something lightweight


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Apr 09, 2009 14:35 |  #18

Recycle time: Studio strobe usually only <1sec, speedling >2sec even with ext. battery pack
Modifiers: Studio has more diverse range of selection from many manufacturers (ignoring the cheapo studio lights aimed at the hobbyist market(
Portability: Speedlight wins
Speed to set up: Speedlight wins
Modelling light: Studio strobe wins

If you have little lighting experience, the modelling light is a true blessing, as you instantly can SEE what light position does, without taking a photo! It provides you with the rapid optimization of light for that specific subject, whereas speedlight is always a guess until you chimp, and a lot of subjects won't put up with that time wasting nonsense! This, IMHO, is the single strongest reason for a lighting rookie to get studio lighting!


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Apr 09, 2009 15:01 |  #19

Wilt wrote in post #7699290 (external link)
Recycle time: Studio strobe usually only <1sec, speedling >2sec even with ext. battery pack
Modifiers: Studio has more diverse range of selection from many manufacturers (ignoring the cheapo studio lights aimed at the hobbyist market(
Portability: Speedlight wins
Speed to set up: Speedlight wins
Modelling light: Studio strobe wins

If you have little lighting experience, the modelling light is a true blessing, as you instantly can SEE what light position does, without taking a photo! It provides you with the rapid optimization of light for that specific subject, whereas speedlight is always a guess until you chimp, and a lot of subjects won't put up with that time wasting nonsense! This, IMHO, is the single strongest reason for a lighting rookie to get studio lighting!

Very well said and right on the mark.

To be effective with speed and quality with speedlites, it comes with experience... and lots of it.


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Apr 09, 2009 15:21 as a reply to  @ EmaginePixel's post |  #20

If your doing studio and outdoor, portable, speedlites is the way to go.

Get/make yourself a Beauty dish, a softbox, maybe some gels.

Thats what i have.

3 10' Stands, boom arm, 2 nikon SB28's, 430ex, and some softboxes, beauty dish, refelctors. :)


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Apr 10, 2009 01:40 |  #21

I'm setting myself up with some speedlights at the moment but the thing about strobes, especially if you are new to lighing, is the modeling lights, they really help you design and see your light an I think it's pretty huge.

Yes you learn to anticipate what the speedlights are going to do and they are small but they also take batteries. I'm new to speedlights so there's still a long part of the learning curve and I've seen lots of lovely work done with them but I find strobes very simple and straightforward to use and understand and to see the light with.

I got stroes first and will take them with me on one larger people shoot next week but then for a single person shoot that will probably end up with me using just one speedlight off camera for either a key or just to fill, then I'll use a speedlight.


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Apr 10, 2009 09:07 as a reply to  @ Jannie's post |  #22

It comes down to your needs. I shoot dogs. They are easily distracted and have ADD worse than me, so setting up quickly with less intimidating equipment works well most of the time.

Also, I like doing CRAZY stuff. I enjoy taking off with my gear on the weekends and driving to where the road leads me. That is usually a rock formation or an abandoned car or building on private property somewhere between here and deliverance land. Sneaking behind "trespassers will be shot" signs is better done with lightweight and cheap lighting equipment. If I hear banjo music and gotta make a run for it, I can leave my Vivitars and ebay poppers behind. But I'm gonna fight Bubba for my White Lightnings and Pocket Wizards! :lol:




  
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Apr 10, 2009 12:32 |  #23

This argument can go on forever. You use what you have access to and both have advantages and disavantages. I recently shot at 24 locations for a franchise restaurant and they need me to be able to crank out the shoots. No time for studio strobes. I kept my sb-28s on the stands and just hooked them up with Cybersyncs and added softboxes/umbrellas quickly at each location. I was literally up and ready to shoot with 3 light setups in about 5 minutes at each location. That's all I could do with the restaurants being open for business. I couldn't sit there for an hour packing and unpacking equipment in the middle of a lunch rush. Would studio lights have been nice? Yes, but not an option, so I used the strobist kit.


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Apr 10, 2009 13:56 |  #24

Mobility is critical: speedlights.
Mobility is not critical: studio strobes.

Okay, not that simple, but if you can't make the decision yourself, you're probably better off starting with a couple of studio strobes. You'll get more power for your money that way.




  
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Apr 10, 2009 14:15 |  #25

MD Steelerfan wrote in post #7704769 (external link)
This argument can go on forever. You use what you have access to and both have advantages and disavantages. I recently shot at 24 locations for a franchise restaurant and they need me to be able to crank out the shoots. No time for studio strobes. I kept my sb-28s on the stands and just hooked them up with Cybersyncs and added softboxes/umbrellas quickly at each location. I was literally up and ready to shoot with 3 light setups in about 5 minutes at each location. That's all I could do with the restaurants being open for business. I couldn't sit there for an hour packing and unpacking equipment in the middle of a lunch rush. Would studio lights have been nice? Yes, but not an option, so I used the strobist kit.

And it will go on forever, and has been for some time! ;)

You're absolutely right in suggesting to use whatever one has. Either will do just fine. I have both, use them both. I can set either in about the same time. One is more powerful but heavy, and the other is weaker but very light.

In the end the only real differences I see are power, weight, and lack of readily available modifiers for the hot shoe flashes.


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