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Apr 20, 2009 09:22 |  #1

My budget is $400.

Deciding on either

Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR
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Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM
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Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4

It's mostly for taking lanscape shots.

If these aren't bang for a buck, then your 2 cent would be appreciated it as well.


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Apr 20, 2009 11:35 |  #2

You already have an 18-55 IS lens. The Tamron 17-50 is a fine lens but will not get you much you do not have "wide wise." How about a little more $ and a Tokina 11-16/2.8?


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Apr 20, 2009 11:37 |  #3

I think the idea is to REPLACE the 18-55, in which case I would recommend the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=209580 (lens sample thread for the 17-50)


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Apr 20, 2009 11:37 |  #4

I have the Sigma 10-20mm lens. The HSM makes the AF near silent and fast. I've gotten some really nice pictures out of the lens. It would be my recommendation... That is... if you want a wide angle zoom. As therealmr suggested, if it's to replace the 18-55, go w/ a lens that's already in that focal range.


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Apr 20, 2009 11:46 as a reply to  @ bwhited's post |  #5

Do you want to replace the 18-55? If so the Tammy's generally regarded as a step up in IQ.

As I said on your other thread, however, I think your lens collection would be better served by adding capability in the ultrawide rage. Particularly if you want vast, sweeping landscapes. Each of those ultrawides has their fan bases, so it depends on what you want: Siggy for budget performance and wider max focal length, or the Tokina for longer reach and constant aperture. I don't think you'd go wrong with either.


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Apr 20, 2009 11:48 |  #6

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Apr 20, 2009 11:57 |  #7

Looking at your other lenses, I think the Tokina 12-24 is your best option (for landscape).

There's a Mk2 of it (relatively new), which is apparently more resistant to flare... Might just give it the edge over the sigma, and if anything, lower the price of the Mk1 ^^ Time and reviews will tell though.

However, the Tamron is a great lens also, but as said, it's really not as wide, will leave you with a spare lens (because you're not going to mount the 18-55 again) and might leave you wanting something wider.


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Apr 20, 2009 11:59 |  #8

TweakMDS wrote in post #7767866 (external link)
Looking at your other lenses, I think the Tokina 12-24 is your best option (for landscape).

There's a Mk2 of it (relatively new), which is apparently more resistant to flare... Might just give it the edge over the sigma, and if anything, lower the price of the Mk1 ^^ Time and reviews will tell though.

However, the Tamron is a great lens also, but as said, it's really not as wide, will leave you with a spare lens (because you're not going to mount the 18-55 again) and might leave you wanting something wider.

I'll agree with this. I had the Tokina and only sold it because I found I didn't use it. It produces great photos and if you don't mind the slow focus and f/4, it's a great value for a wonderful lens.




  
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Apr 20, 2009 12:02 |  #9

This might be an interesting read when doubting between the sigma 10-20 and tokina 12-24.

http://www.pbase.com/l​ightrules/exvdx (external link)

After reading it, I'm no longer 100% sure on backing the 12-24 in this one, because the 10-20 performs really well in this test... However, the Tokina does too, and a full stop faster from 17mm and up (though that's probably not a major issue for landscape) :D

Sigma does seem to have more QC issues throughout it's lens line-up though.

Good luck deciding!


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Apr 20, 2009 12:40 as a reply to  @ TweakMDS's post |  #10

Sigma VS Tokina - IMO no contest...

When you buy a Sigma, you are entering a lottery and guessing (hoping?) that Sigma will not change your lens model before you want a new model Canon DSLR.

Sigma "reverse engineers" the EOS mount lenses and, although they can and will rechip the lens to work with newer Canon cameras, they will not or cannot rechip a lens which model has been discontinued or updated.

As a result of this reverse engineering, I have a great Sigme 28mm f/1.8 which cannot be used on any camera newer than a 10D.

I had an older Tokina 400mm f/5.6 ATX which I used on all my cameras listed below plus a 350D. So apprarently there is no problem along than line for Tokina lenses (at least the two with which I am familiar).

Fool me once Sigma, shame on you. Fool me twice Sigma, shame on me. I shoot with a 12-24mm Tokina ATX and love it.


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Apr 20, 2009 12:56 as a reply to  @ RPCrowe's post |  #11

To repost what i said in your other thread:

Go for a used Sigma, once you use 10mm on something..you'll be sold..

Heres some samples from my copy:

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Apr 20, 2009 13:17 |  #12

10mm is addicting. +1 for the Sigma: good IQ, build. Watch out for flare though.


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Apr 20, 2009 14:32 as a reply to  @ XJS999's post |  #13

+1 on the Sigma, outstanding lens for landscape/architecture​, not used the others, but when I did my research, this was top of my list :cool:


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Apr 20, 2009 15:13 as a reply to  @ Mr-Beama's post |  #14

I was in the same situation. Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 12-24. The price on the Tokina dropped significantly after they released the new version. It can be had for $399 before any type of cash back at most places. I ended up getting the Tokina and so far I love it. It is very sharp and fun to shoot with. I do not have any experience with the Sigma so I can't compare the two. From reviews, I believe you can't go wrong with either. Flip a coin? :p


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Apr 22, 2009 21:15 |  #15

I would save and buy the ultra wide angle Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 lens. Excellent lens!
Currently running around $600 at B & H and Adorama.


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