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Can 5dMk2 replace HD camcorder?

 
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May 06, 2009 16:21 |  #16

I agree with the above, but it does have some amazing video capabilities. Granted I have no video experience or knowledge, so take this as you will... just stirring the pot I suppose, another perspective.

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May 06, 2009 18:28 |  #17

I sold my 3 chip Canon HDV camera - XH A1 - and use the 5D2 for video now. A quantum leap in performance but you have to take in to account the limitations.


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May 06, 2009 18:56 as a reply to  @ post 7870562 |  #18

SLRs seem like awkward beasts to shoot video though, but the potential is there. We've just had some river hog piglets born, someone in press asked me film for the web site, given I can potentially do it with my 70-200, or 100-400; which i should get around to tomorrow. Zoom!!!

I have had thoughts about buying a separate video camera along the handling lines; for about a grand, over the 5D2 what might I consider just out of interest?


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May 06, 2009 22:22 |  #19

Jahled wrote in post #7871494 (external link)
I have had thoughts about buying a separate video camera along the handling lines; for about a grand, over the 5D2 what might I consider just out of interest?

Check out the ones I mentioned I was looking at -

Canon HFS100 (or HFS10 if you need flash storage built in)
Panasonic HDC-TM300

The canon is just shy of $1k and the Panasonic a little more, but they both look to be the top performers of the current crop.


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May 06, 2009 22:48 |  #20

Nope, get a camcorder.




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May 06, 2009 22:54 |  #21

The answer is no.


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May 06, 2009 23:27 |  #22

Neon01 wrote in post #7868187 (external link)
the real question is whether the camcorder functionality would serve adequately in lieu of a dedicated camcorder like a Canon HFS100

No.

Neon01 wrote in post #7868187 (external link)
My concerns are how the 5d stacks up in image stabilization,

Sound is 90% of what you see. Even with a good off-camera microphone, most image stabilized lenses are too loud and will be picked up by the 5D2. Dedicated video cameras have very quiet operation, including the image stabilizers.

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autofocus while shooting

It's a complete waste on the 5D2. You have to manually activate it; there is no always-on setting. And when you do manually activate it, the image goes *way* out of focus, then slowly, and with much jittering/jerking gets back into focus. There really is only two ways to focus the 5D2 for video:

1. Autofocus once before recording, and leave it there.
2. Manual focus.

Autofocus while shooting is not even an option.

Neon01 wrote in post #7868187 (external link)
Easy use is a must though, as my wife would need to take videos occasionally and she doesn't like messing with a million settings

5D2 is very poor in this area.

Neon01 wrote in post #7868187 (external link)
I imagine IS is pretty much going to come down to the lens, yes?

Yes. I find that sometimes the IS jumps and jerks around a bit. If you have a lens with "mode 2" IS, I find that it helps.

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May 07, 2009 00:33 as a reply to  @ Daniel Browning's post |  #23

Buy an camcorder for movies but the 5d mark video quality is amazing. Here is a handled example at an NHL Chicago Blackhawk playoff game last night.

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May 07, 2009 00:48 as a reply to  @ pmarz's post |  #24

not a pro video guy, but I work in an environment w/ video pros on a daily basis. Our company shoots/edits extra contents for Bluray movies and documentaries. A few of our guys are calling the 5D2 "red" on a budget http://www.red.com/ (external link)
Does take a bit of work, but if you are willing setup a rig for the sound and learn to setup shots for manual work, you can achieve some amazing production level results. With your needs of capture candid shots in unpredictable setting with your new family member, a dedicate camcorder is definitely a better choice. You really don't want to miss any important moment fiddling around with the setup. Good luck with your equipment hunt and congrats with the new family addition.


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Jun 16, 2009 20:57 |  #25
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Has anyone compared the low light video quality of the 5D2 with an HV20 (or 30)? From what I've seen posted, the 5D2 handles high ISO better than what I've seen from my HV20. BTW, the HV20 has been a blast capturing my baby from birth to present (turning one in a couple of weeks). I cant imagine replacing it and the mic with the 5D2 though I can imagine capturing some great moments when my HV20 is not handy.


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Jun 16, 2009 21:21 |  #26

5d2 is an amazing video capturing device.. i do video very often for events etc.. and i am trying to sell my xh-a1 in order to have a second body 5dII. the low light capabilities and the ability to use my L lenses in video make it more than worthwhile to choose it over a dedicated camcorder. you can always buy external shotgun mics or even xlr input to mic converters for better sound, but for the money you'll get better quality video with the 5dII than any other dedicated camcorder short of the redone. and the redone systems go for around 30,000


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Jun 16, 2009 21:37 |  #27
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I see you have an HV30. How do you feel the 5D2 compares to it in low light or full sun for that matter. Also, I'm calculating approx 30 minutes of 1080 footage on an 8G card. Does that sound accurate?


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Jun 16, 2009 21:48 |  #28

yea i have both an hv30 and xha1 and neither holds a candle to the 5d2... only reason why i'd keep the hv30 is cuz it's cheap and a decent backup camcorder when shooting events.. the xha1 has way better IQ than the hv30 but i don't see the point in owning the xha1 if the 5dII's IQ is so much better that it doesn't look right editing the video from the two cameras together.. i'd much rather use 2 5dII's


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Jun 16, 2009 21:51 |  #29

by the way.. the hv20 or hv30 is a great camcorder for capturing life's little moments and shooting home video stuff. but if you're going to edit videos etc.. the 5d2 is hands down better than anything short of a Red one...


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Jun 17, 2009 11:26 |  #30

A 5DII can definitely replace an HD camcorder, if you're willing to work with the limitations (such as max. 4GB or 12 min recording, whichever comes first)

I think in most cases learning to manual focus doing video with this DSLR will be even faster than AF.

The advantages though, are full frame, almost every focal length, excellent optical quality, and you only carry one thing! Plus, shooting at higher ISOs on full frame will be way better than on a camcorder with a smaller sensor (even Canon's pro camcorders aren't full frame AFAIK)




  
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