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May 11, 2009 19:17 |  #16

I went into my local camera store to play with the 5D Mark II, and they had the 24-70 attached, so I figured, what the heck, I'll play with that lens on it.
I already own the 24-70, so I was nicely surprised by how wide it went but slightly disappointed by how long it was. Sure it was the difference of me stepping a few feet, but that's the first thing I noticed.
I also took pictures of the price tags with the 24-70 that they had in store, and not surprising, it was tack sharp.
The 24-105 however showed some fringing into the text and overall didn't seem sharper.

I hope that helps. These were by no means scientific, but my overall opinion and just what I noticed from the LCD, which on the Mark II, is really nice.


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May 11, 2009 19:27 |  #17

yogibear wrote in post #7901618 (external link)
I recently sold my 24-105 and replaced it with a 24-70. I find myself liking the 24-70 more for the following reasons:

1) Sharper, especially in the corners
2) 2.8
3) Focuses faster and tracks moving objects a lot better
4) Less distortion
5) Although not a macro lens it does a better job with flowers than the 24-105
6) Much less vignetting

Hope this helps. I also have a 70-200 f4 IS but I don't find myself needing the extra reach that often. The 24-70 and my Sigma 50 1.4 gets the most amount of use.

Yogi,

What are the subjects and what kind of lighting do you primary shoot in? I'm thinking of doing the same (selling my 24-105) but I tried the 24-70 at a camera store and I'm a bit worried because you have to be extremely careful when hand holding to produce a sharp image. At least that's what I felt.

I primarily shoot landscape and my daughter. For landscapes, I feel like I'd benefit more from the IS since I'm at f/8 and 11 anyway. Am I off in my thinking?


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May 11, 2009 19:32 |  #18

alt4852 wrote in post #7902167 (external link)
it depends on what you're shooting. if you can get close to the stage for small events, it's perfect. however, if it's a larger venue or you can't get close, not even the 24-105 would suffice. that's why most people pair the 24-70 with the 70-200 2.8.

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OP, when you say indoors, how large are we talking?

This is one from a few months ago.. Low cielings, lot's of angry/sweaty people jumping, and me in the middle with my camera :P

Most gigs i go to are in fairly small venues where there isn't a dedicated area for photographers.. You literally have to get in the middle of the hyped up crowd and avoid the flying fists :)

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May 11, 2009 19:43 |  #19

I like 24-70 on full frame even more than how I liked it on a crop camera. Maybe it's because I grew up with film where my lens selection was 24mm, 50mm and a 75-150mm zoom, and >75% of my shots were with the 50mm prime.


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May 11, 2009 20:22 |  #20

yokozuna80 wrote in post #7902314 (external link)
Yogi,

What are the subjects and what kind of lighting do you primary shoot in? I'm thinking of doing the same (selling my 24-105) but I tried the 24-70 at a camera store and I'm a bit worried because you have to be extremely careful when hand holding to produce a sharp image. At least that's what I felt.

I primarily shoot landscape and my daughter. For landscapes, I feel like I'd benefit more from the IS since I'm at f/8 and 11 anyway. Am I off in my thinking?

I'm all over the place with my photography. I find myself shooting everything. That's how I learn. Anyways, I haven't done much landscape with my 24-70 so far because I've only had it for several days. I don't imagine it will be much of a problem unless I'm shooting at dusk. If it gets too dark and I don't want to bump up the ISO on my 5D2 then I suppose a tripod will come in handy. I'll be heading to some of the national parks in Utah next month. I guess I'll know better then. So far, I've been using it to take a lot of pictures of my one year old son. The 24-70 has proven to be much more useful than the 24-105 because it focuses a lot faster and tracks my son's movements much better. I've been getting really sharp pictures when hand held at 1/60 sec on the long end and I can hold it a bit longer in the wider ranges. With the 24-105 I was able to do 1/15 second. I can't do that with the 24-70 but I don't find myself needing to do this too often.




  
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May 11, 2009 21:26 |  #21

timnosenzo wrote in post #7901931 (external link)
If the light is really that bad you may want to consider primes instead--in poorly lit bars/restaurants even f/2.8 won't be fast enough.

I have to agree. If you're unsure of what you'll use, pick yourself up a nifty fifty (less than $100 and 1.8) Then rent/borrow a 24-70 and see what you like! My smallest aperture lens is 2.8 for this very reason! (my others are 1.4 and 1.2)


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May 11, 2009 21:34 |  #22

i'm with rpphoto.

My camera is fast enough that IS on the 24-70 (if it existed) would have little value, especially on wide shots. With the 5D II I find the IS on my telephoto is turned off quite a lot. On the 24-70, I don't find 70mm very long, but it depends on the subject matter. For people, yeah, it suffices. For smaller objects the telephoto is what comes into play. If a single lens is what you're after perhaps the expensive 28-300L IS would do you well.

But I love my 24-70. It's on most of the time. It's razor sharp at 5.6. I don't think the 28-105 (or whatever zoom range it is) would fully satisfy me.


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May 11, 2009 21:35 |  #23

alt4852 wrote in post #7902167 (external link)
it depends on what you're shooting. if you can get close to the stage for small events, it's perfect. however, if it's a larger venue or you can't get close, not even the 24-105 would suffice. that's why most people pair the 24-70 with the 70-200 2.8.

BINGO! The 24-70 can be just a bit short for general use on the 5D, but you always have the option to crop the 5D or to use the 70-200 when you need longer. Even though 2.8 isn't really quite wide enough to shoot consistently indoors without flash, the fact that the AF sensor is in high precision is a huge bonus over a narrower aperture lens. My 5D and 24-70 do an excellent job in really dark venues, granted with a 580 to make things visible.

I would love the 24-70 to have IS, but it does pretty well without it. My 13 year old son was using mine yesterday, and even at 70mm, f/2.8 & 1/60th he did a pretty good job of getting keepers - when the subject wasn't moving.


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May 11, 2009 21:36 |  #24

I use my 24-70 on my film body and I love the length, it is perfect for that "walking around lens" feel. It is definitely a lot shorter than on a crop body, but I think it is much more manageable. I would definitely say go for it.


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May 12, 2009 07:49 |  #25

Using the 24-70, I never wished it had more reach. On a 1.3x camera it's around 90mm at the top end, 112mm on a 1.6x. If I need more I grab the 70-200. My preference for f/2.8 (or faster) trumps the "additional reach" argument. You can always use another lens, but your aperture is what it is.


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May 12, 2009 07:52 |  #26

malla1962 wrote in post #7901536 (external link)
I got the 24-105 for travel and I have to agree with you.

Yes the 24-70 f2.8L is a great lens. Like someone else said get a 70-200 to go along with it and you are good to go.


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May 12, 2009 07:53 |  #27

IS is the only thing that separates the 24-70 from the 24-105, IMO. I had a chance to play around with the 24-105 a week back, and my first comparison was going from 70-105 (where the 24-70 ends). Needless to say, the extra 30mm of reach really wasn't all that much, at least not enough to make the 24-105 the superior walk-around lens.

IS, on the other hand, gives the 24-105 the edge in darker locals. To compensate w/ my 24-70, I find a door frame or counter-top, or fence post works well to stabalize. And if all else fails, I use my "self-brace" method, where I grab my right shoulder with my left hand, and rest the camera in the crook of my left elbow. As good as any IS :)




  
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May 12, 2009 07:58 |  #28

gibbo182 wrote in post #7902339 (external link)
This is one from a few months ago.. Low cielings, lot's of angry/sweaty people jumping, and me in the middle with my camera :P

Most gigs i go to are in fairly small venues where there isn't a dedicated area for photographers.. You literally have to get in the middle of the hyped up crowd and avoid the flying fists :)

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Oli Sykes :D high five? :p

I'm hoping to get a 24-70 for gigs that I shoot. Lately I use a 24 f/2.8 on my 400D. Sometimes it was too long to get a full body shot from the photographer's pit but sometimes it wasn't enough because I wanted a close up. I don't know when I'll get a 24-70 but I can tell you now it'll be so much better shooting with it rather than swapping to the nifty fifty every so often.




  
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May 12, 2009 08:23 |  #29

gibbo182 wrote in post #7901154 (external link)
I will be upgrading to the 5d (not mark II) in a few months, and was just wondering whether this lens is long enough on a full frame body?

I had the 17-55 2.8 IS on my previous 40D. I now own the 24-70L on 5D. It seems a bit short, but is great for walkabouts & portraits shots. After using it, I forgotten about the extra focal length.

Seems like you are not calling the owners of 24-70L, 24-70L is calling you..... Just do it!


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May 12, 2009 08:49 |  #30

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Oli Sykes :D high five? :p

I would give you a high five dude :) i didn't expect to run across any bmth fans on POTN :P

Thanks for everyone's comments and info.. I have decided now. In a couple of months it will be in my bag :D


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