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May 10, 2009 19:41 |  #1

I ran into this guy while hiking in the First Landing Park at Virginia Beach. I would guess he was approximately 20 inches or so. He was sunning himself in the middle of the trail and I was looking for Osprey which aren't exactly ground dwellers so I'm glad I just happened to spot him before stepping on him. I'm thinking he may be a Copperhead and from what I've ready they aren't very deadly so I feel better now but I was keeping an eye on the trail a little more after running into him. If anyone can confirm my tentative ID or correct me that would be great. Thanks.

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May 10, 2009 19:49 |  #2

slit shaped eyes pretty much confirm it is venomous. Size is right. I haven't seen a copperhead in 20 years, but pretty sure this is one.


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May 10, 2009 20:31 |  #3

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May 10, 2009 21:41 |  #4

Yep that's a copperhead. Ordinarily not deadly with proper medical treatment - but boy you will get sick before its all over with.


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May 10, 2009 22:07 |  #5

Thanks very much for the ID guys!

On a side note does anyone know if the item in the nasal passage, probably the wrong terminology, is some sort of a parasite or is that normal? Unfortunately, I didn't get a shot of the other side of his head.

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May 10, 2009 23:39 |  #6

Looks like a nothern copperhead. Great specimen. Not sure about the spot on the heat pits. Could be foreign matter, but hard to tell.


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May 12, 2009 10:32 |  #7

Thats a nice series of shots, well done




  
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May 12, 2009 13:52 |  #8

What a great looking Copperhead. You were lucky to spot it. Wish I could find more snakes on my outings so I could capture images like this. Well done!




  
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May 12, 2009 14:15 |  #9

Beautiful shots!
How long did he lay there while you were snapping pictures? How close were you?
Great detail and DOF!


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May 12, 2009 19:08 |  #10

buddy4344 wrote in post #7895487 (external link)
slit shaped eyes pretty much confirm it is venomous. Size is right. I haven't seen a copperhead in 20 years, but pretty sure this is one.

I believe many snakes have slit shaped eyes that are not poisonous. i have couple of boas that have slit shaped eyes.

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May 12, 2009 21:21 |  #11

Copperheads are very venomous ! If they bite you , you do need medical attention immediately !! In the USA the top 4 most dangerous snakes are : Coral , Copperhead , Cottonmouth , Rattlesnake . Check this out : http://www.venomoussna​kes.net/ (external link)




  
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May 12, 2009 22:33 |  #12

Celestron wrote in post #7910034 (external link)
Copperheads are very venomous ! If they bite you , you do need medical attention immediately !! In the USA the top 4 most dangerous snakes are : Coral , Copperhead , Cottonmouth , Rattlesnake . Check this out : http://www.venomoussna​kes.net/ (external link)

Copperheads are actually one of our least dangerous venomous snakes. In fact many bites result in nothing more than some minor swelling and localized pain. Thats not to say that medical help is not needed or that its not a medical emergency however the chances of dying from even an untreated bite are relatively rare provided one does not experience anaphylactic shock or venom is not injected intravenously.
Don't rely on the internet for accurate information as it tends to be pretty broad, sensationalistic and non specific.
As an example lets take the Rattlesnakes. Some such as the Mojave Green are quite deadly whilst others such as the Dusky Pygmies are typically considered non lethal as is the Copperhead.
Cottonmouth bites are typically not life threatening but tend to involve a fair amount of tissue damage.
The Coral Snake is an elapid and does not fall in the same category as our other native venomous snakes. Instead of being primarily hemotoxic their venom is neurotoxic which directly affects the CNS and which makes it a very dangerous animal. Symptoms often do not appear for hours after a bite and can progress rapidly from that point which means time is of the essence.
To sum it up ALL venomous snake bites should be treated in a medical setting but your chances of dying are statistically very low indeed.


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May 12, 2009 22:42 |  #13

Luvthemtorts wrote in post #7910371 (external link)
As an example lets take the Rattlesnakes. Some such as the Mojave Green are quite deadly

Correct. There are cases and research where Mojaves have a neurotoxic and hemotoxic venom and this has also been suggested to be true with a few bites from Soutern Pacific rattlesnakes.

Getting a bite from a rattlesnake who venom has hemotoxic and neurotoxic properties can have very bad effects.


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May 13, 2009 13:20 |  #14

Great info. We do have a lot of coral snakes here in Fl. I have come across a few in my neighborhood and in the woods. Now I just need to catch some upclose photos of some of them.




  
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May 13, 2009 16:43 |  #15

Well i just know that Copperheads are venomous and dangerous . And no matter what type venom it has it is still considered to be lethal and medical attention is needed as with any other venomous snake . If it were not then it would not be listed at all on the Venomous list of snakes . I hate snakes , i know their purpose and i don't bother and go looking for them . Better they are hidden the better off i am . So the way i look at it that if someone ask if they are dangerous or venomous and the particular snake is then that person should be assured that they are and not mislead otherwise . I would feel bad if i said a particular snake was ok and the person got bit and did nothing about it and ended up in the hospital from a poisonous snake bite . I'll rest better at night !




  
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