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May 13, 2009 12:11 |  #1

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May 13, 2009 12:12 |  #2

hmmm... kind of bland subject material. might want to try a different subject and possibly a different time of day. good effort ;)



  
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May 13, 2009 16:34 |  #3

Not really sure what you were trying to achieve but don't worry I think that all of us were like that upon first receiving our camera's. My recommendation would be to conquer daylight shots first before moving onto night work. And also finding more interesting subjects would be a plus. Remember its not just about candidate shots, look for artist subjects and if you can't find any, try to turn a what may seem boring shot into something interesting.


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May 13, 2009 16:39 |  #4

Maybe getting in closer on the lighting detail or shooting through the water fountain would have added interest.
Technically OK though a little soft




  
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May 13, 2009 20:41 |  #5

Honestly, it's hard for me to define "subject".. You mean there should be something at the foreground? How about the tree? doesn't it fit as a subjecT? Just curious...


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May 13, 2009 21:11 |  #6

DYORD wrote in post #7916786 (external link)
Honestly, it's hard for me to define "subject".. You mean there should be something at the foreground? How about the tree? doesn't it fit as a subjecT? Just curious...

I think the word 'subject' is used for 'the reason you are taking the picture' or the 'thing' you want people to look at, or focus on in the picture.

I don't think the tree in this picture is the subject, as it's not the intention of why you took it, and therefore isn't what you want the people to focus on when looking at it.


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May 14, 2009 06:21 |  #7

how do you shoot a facade of a mall or a structure?


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May 14, 2009 12:52 as a reply to  @ DYORD's post |  #8

Take a look at this site for a few ideas.

http://www.archimage.c​o.uk/arch_thumbnail.ht​m (external link)
This is what i meant by details etc..




  
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May 14, 2009 13:21 |  #9

sorry.. but i really have to ask this..

how is my picture different from this one?

http://www.archimage.c​o.uk/mclaren.htm (external link)


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May 14, 2009 13:47 |  #10

DYORD wrote in post #7921142 (external link)
sorry.. but i really have to ask this..

how is my picture different from this one?

http://www.archimage.c​o.uk/mclaren.htm (external link)

I think that a more helpful approach in learning image composition would be to rephrase the question and ask yourself, "how is my picture like this one"?

Then think about the ways that they might be different in terms of things like the rule of thirds for composition, exposure, leading lines, points of interest, and clarity of its message.


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May 14, 2009 14:10 as a reply to  @ Bill Boehme's post |  #11

DYORD,

I'm no expert in architectural photography, but looking at your photo, I could not decide what you wanted a viewer to see as a subject of interest. I would say you need a better angle. If you look at the examples mentioned to compare to, you can see there are interesting lines, lighting and curves to help you draw the eye to the photo. Some of them are post processing however...

Keep working the subject, (the building and lighting) from different point of views. From your picture I would have gone to the far left and shot the lines using vertical and worked a little bit more on the exposure. Meter off your palm and recompose, or add a little overexposure to avoid the pitch black sky.

Go lower, get a bit closer to the fountains, use slower shutters to capture the water nice and silky, etc.


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May 14, 2009 14:19 |  #12

DYORD wrote in post #7921142 (external link)
sorry.. but i really have to ask this..

how is my picture different from this one?

http://www.archimage.c​o.uk/mclaren.htm (external link)

The Technology centre shot has all the perfect compositional elements.
The rail (foreground) established the scale and the mid ground curve of the building leads the eye naturally into the background distance.(leading lines)
The lighting is well balanced, the colours very vivid and it is pin sharp.

In your shot the interior building lighting is over exposed and the building signs appear blurred, you have elements half in half out of the frame like the tree on the right and the puddles in the foreground and the entire image is soft.
For me there is no point of interest for my eye to lead to so the whole scene lacks interest.
With the technology centre shot when i look at it i start at the handrail in the foreground and follow the sweep of the entire building into the background taking in the vivid blues as i go and i find the image pleasing.

I am not saying you have a bad shot, it's OK but lacks composition elements IMO.:D




  
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May 14, 2009 14:28 |  #13

DYORD wrote in post #7921142 (external link)
sorry.. but i really have to ask this..

how is my picture different from this one?

http://www.archimage.c​o.uk/mclaren.htm (external link)

To answer your specific question the things that stand out for me between the two are;

Your image,
has blown highlights, significantly over blown
has dark sky that hides the architecture of the building (lack of contrast between your "background and subject")

The "other" image,
has contrast in the building and surroundings that emphasize the lines of the architecture
has a "cleaner" look and feel (less clutter)

To me, you've got a pretty good shot, maybe not wall-hanging quality, but a lot better than some that I've seen... (My wife just completed a photography course and the architecture assignments she showed me.. well you did quite well comparatively speaking)

Your foreground has puddles and texture that are distracting, and as pointed out the sky has no contrast with the buildings outline... Tripod (if not used) would help with some of the softness in the image.

I've no doubt you could go back a few times and make improvements shooting from different spots, angles, positions and different lenses... I'd like to see more.:cool:




  
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May 15, 2009 08:01 |  #14

Thanks for all your replies.. really helped me a lot. But going back to lack of sky.. how do you shoot this kind of scenario having a sky without over exposing the building?


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May 15, 2009 13:40 |  #15

DYORD wrote in post #7925893 (external link)
Thanks for all your replies.. really helped me a lot. But going back to lack of sky.. how do you shoot this kind of scenario having a sky without over exposing the building?

Blended multiple exposures is one way you could handle that.
Do you use Photoshop?




  
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