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WWYD? 16-35 or 24-70?

 
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May 16, 2009 10:14 |  #1

What would you do? Canon 16-35 or 24-70?

Hi guys, I've answered a ton of "which lens to buy" questions, so I think it's fair I pose a question back. :)

I've got 4 lenses (listed in my sig') and I've decided I need to fund another body (5D2 or 50D, depending on the success of my funding) so I am SELLING either the 24-70L or the 16-35L. I want 2 bodies, and no time wasted by lens switching.

I've owned the 16-35 for a little over a week and have had only one day to put it to use. Used it at a concert. I usually do weddings, so being distanced and stealthy applied about the same as how I shot at the concert. I found that the 70mm on the 24-70 was totally useless. I was either shooting wide or far. This made me ponder... does the 24-70 have much application if you own an ultra wide zoom and a telephoto zoom? This gets trickier when you also have a 50mm prime with equal sharpness (the 50mm 1.4).

Don't get me wrong, I love the 24-70 for all of the reasons it's so popular. But I'm thinking with the lenses I have, I can probably get away without it.

I've got kids (expensive) and a wife (expensive) and of course bills. I can't fuss around with equipment that might not get used and allows me to cash in on more important equipment (new body). Sooo, yeah, tough questions... I just have to ask... what would you do?

Here are my lens scenarios after making my sale:

(orange represents the focal range I used at the concert the other night and would likely represent the same at the weddings I shoot)

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May 16, 2009 10:23 |  #2

I think you need to decide first, whether you are getting another crop body or FF. Lenses will behave quite differently on both of them.

Do you currently have what is in your sig (5dII, XS)


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May 16, 2009 10:27 |  #3

No brainer. Based on your usage of focal length, sell the 24-70mm. 50mm prime nicely fill the gap if you need it.


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May 16, 2009 10:32 |  #4

I almost never used a standard zoom when I owned one (ok, well, a bunch of them). Now I don't own one at all...I don't really miss it.


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May 16, 2009 10:34 |  #5

Well, I'd keep the 24-70 and get the 50D instead of another 5D MkII. ;)


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May 16, 2009 10:43 |  #6

bohdank wrote in post #7932576 (external link)
I think you need to decide first, whether you are getting another crop body or FF. Lenses will behave quite differently on both of them.

Do you currently have what is in your sig (5dII, XS)

Yeah, upgraded to 5DII a month ago.

The XS is 35mm film.

I'd likely buy another 5DII. If I did go crop I'd be attaching the 70-200 to it when working with 2 cameras.


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May 16, 2009 10:47 |  #7

DDCSD wrote in post #7932631 (external link)
Well, I'd keep the 24-70 and get the 50D instead of another 5D MkII. ;)

Good point. It makes a lot of sense! I'm just not as much of a liker of the smaller sensors now that I've become so accustomed to the large CMOS of the 5DII. The 50D is a last ditch scenario in case something happens like a vehicle repair or something unforeseen... life happens :/


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May 16, 2009 11:02 |  #8

For what it's worth... my 28-70 is a great range, for me, on a crop. Although it performs extremely well (a very pleasant surprise) on my 5D, it's utility is somewhat restricted, for the way and what I like to shoot. I need the equivalent on a FF and there is not much out there.

I've sent my 40D to Canon for focus calibration. it misses by a bit more often than I think it should be and I was looking for an excuse to send it in before the warranty expires next month ;-)a

If it comes back the same, I think I'll ditch it and replace with another crop. It adds versatility to my limited number of lenses. The 10-22 is also really good on the 40D although I could swap it for a 17-40. I miss the range of the 70-200 on a crop on the long end, yet it's a much better walk around on a FF, not to mention all my lenses perform much better on the 5D. The 85 is useful but I'm looking to get a 135L for the same perspective on a FF. If I get the 17-40 I would be inclined to sell the 28-75 and replace it with a 50mm prime.

At some point I am going to have to decide whether I want to keep a crop body around. I'll wait till the end of summer and see how many times I use and need the 6.5fps.

Keeping 2 format sizes, crop and FF, is more complicated than it should be :-)


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May 16, 2009 11:16 |  #9

I wouldn't sell your 24-70L. Its a phenominal zoom for you FF body. It'll be a work horse for paid shoots and casual photos.

For a cheaper solution just buy a new 50D body only. You can put the 24-70L on the 5dmkII and have it paired with the 50D w/ 70-200. Potent combo for a ceremony at a wedding. Megapixels of the 50D gives you cropping abilities without losing too much IQ.

OR look for a lightly used 5d classic for a second body.

Your 16-35 will act as a wide angle on a 50D and an ultra wide on your 5dmkII. You can have the option of shooting unique photos upclose with the 16-35L in close quarters with your 5dmkII. At least with the 16-35L you have fast glass instead of a variable aperature UWA lenses for crops such as the Sigma and Canon flavors. Sounds like your critical on "useage" so the Tokina 11-16mm UWA wouldn't be heavily used.

At a reception the 50 f/1.4 on the 5Dmkii paired with a 50D w/ a prime (85L or f/1.8 or 135L, 100 f/2 or f/2.8) could give you some phenominal IQ and unique photos being ligher weight combo.


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May 16, 2009 11:39 |  #10

since you hate switching lenses, 50mm is quite useless to fill the gap between 16-35 & 70-200...

for me, i'll go with 24-70 & 70-200 combo on two 5DII's. 16-35 has distortion to be used on portraits but it depends on your creativity.


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May 16, 2009 12:33 |  #11

Having a 5DII and 40D I would keep the 24-70. This is a very used range for me and I would personally own a 24-70 if I didn't need the added length of the 24-105, oh I wish that was a 2.8 lens.

My common two camera setup is as follows, but depends on what I'm shooting.

Events: 5DII with 70-200 and 40D with 24-105
Sports: 5DII with 24-105 and 40D with 70-200 and 1.4tc

All of this can very but is very useful and crop has its place and perks over the FF at times.


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May 16, 2009 14:29 |  #12

DDCSD wrote in post #7932631 (external link)
Well, I'd keep the 24-70 and get the 50D instead of another 5D MkII. ;)

+1 and stick the 70-200 on the 50D


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May 16, 2009 14:33 |  #13

DDCSD wrote in post #7932631 (external link)
Well, I'd keep the 24-70 and get the 50D instead of another 5D MkII.
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May 16, 2009 20:27 |  #14

ok, your thoughts have all be wonderful. It's good to get a discussion going and hear these opinions. I don't always trust my instincts. I took out the 24-70 tonight and thought, how could I part with it! I thought the jury might actually side with my idea of dropping the 24-70 in favor of the 16-35. I think that instead of beating myself up over this I'll just buy a 50D and enjoy my current lens lineup and deal with not having a second 35mm equivalent sensor and all of its wonderful power. :P


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May 16, 2009 23:19 |  #15

You'll miss the viewfinder more than the sensor. ;)

I just can't imagine not having a zoom in the 35-70 range with a FF camera.


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