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May 25, 2009 20:18 |  #16

Mr. Bill wrote in post #7987004 (external link)
OK not trying to be rude here, but your use of spelling has really given me a headache. :cry:

As previously mentioned, the book "Understanding exposure" is not bad, but I would do more searching on this site for more of the basics first.

well if dont like it dont respond dont be argent dont say crap i cant spell and i am not downloading a spellcheck proggram for a fourm.


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May 25, 2009 20:19 |  #17

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Start here: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Camera_lens (external link)

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May 25, 2009 20:32 |  #18

If you're not sure on what settings to use, you may consider shooting on P mode first then look at the settings.. then shoot at Manual using that settings (and tweak them according to your own liking). You will eventually get the hang of it.

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May 25, 2009 20:34 as a reply to  @ captainkimo's post |  #19

thank you i just whant to be able to look at something i want to take pictures of and know what manuale setings to use


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May 25, 2009 21:03 as a reply to  @ xsi 09's post |  #20

The "sunny 16" rule is a handy guide. It is simple to remember, on a sunny day (assuming the subject is actually IN the sun) the exposure will be around f/16 @ 1/ISO

So, if you are shooting at ISO 200, you set the camera to 1/200th sec and f/16, or an equivalent exposure. Knowing those three parameters you can adjust each according to your requirements, if you want a wide aperture for less depth of field (say f/5.6) adjust the shutter speed by the same number of stops (in this case to 1/1600th).

In less sunny conditions alter accordingly, keeping shutter speed the same as the ISO, the aperture will be:

Sunny - f/16
Slightly Overcast - f/11
Overcast - f/8
Heavily Overcast - f/5.6

These are simply a guide however, as sunshine can vary in intensity depending on time of day, where you are etc. It is advisable to check the first shot's histogram on the camera, to ensure the exposure is correct.




  
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May 25, 2009 21:06 as a reply to  @ sandpiper's post |  #21

XSI09......

Practice, Practice, Practice..... The only way to learn. Just listen to a couple ppl you trust along the way and you will be off.

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May 25, 2009 23:19 |  #22

Gentleman Villain wrote in post #7984938 (external link)
Don't worry about it....the camera figures out all of that stuff automatically. There's no need to learn any of it

people have too much stress in their lives...there's really no need to worry...if the apirture is wrong it can always be fixed in PP

It is very interesting that this is the same "Gentleman Villain" who in a very long and sometimes contentious thread about 2 months ago argued at length and in part very rudely about the neccessity of "getting it right in the camera", condemned reliance on post-processing and deplored the lack of a system of accreditation which would certify good photographers as "master craftsmen".

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=664682 starting from post #52

I think you bring up an excellent point and it is a very valid topic of conversation. Personally, I do not crop my images and haven't needed to do so for about the past 9 years. It has always my goal in photography to get the image as close to final at capture without having to do much in post or "darkroom work." .....

I went to a photography school in 1994 and immediately ran into the 2 schools of thought when it comes to photography. One school of thought is the "anything goes" school...that is ...do whatever you want as long as it looks cool. THese people don't worry as much about their technique at capture and are willing to spend more time in post playing with images. Many times, they have no idea what the final product will look like at capture. They will often "wing it" and go-with-the-flow. That's cool, that's one school of thought.

Personally, that is not my school of thought. I always wanted to have absolute control over the medium of photography. I always wanted to be an excellent craftsman and be able to get the image as close to my visualization at capture as possible. This is the second school of thought.


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May 26, 2009 09:41 as a reply to  @ tzalman's post |  #23

Always amazed at how sarcasm just doesn't translate on internet forums. I wish people would follow the thread like a conversation and pick up a little nuance now and again. When I read the OP I think he just wanted to know how you just look at a scene and gauge the settings you would use in Manual before you look through the viewfinder and start taking readings. The title of the thread was slightly misleading and easily sent the conversation down the well worn road of exposure. To this I can only suggest practice and pay attention the settings you have used on well exposed shots. Internalize them and ask yourself why those settings worked.


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May 26, 2009 10:37 as a reply to  @ Spotmatic's post |  #24
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that's true about sarcasm...Forums can also be humorless places too. The original un-edited post read like a text message from somebody riding a roller coaster. IF we can't have a little fun with a bad speller once in awhile then when can we have fun? I'm a bad speller too. OK now ...just so nobody thinks that's being too rude or condescending or whatever...here's a smiley face gif at the end :D




  
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May 26, 2009 10:38 |  #25

xsi 09 wrote in post #7984789 (external link)
what i mean buy this is how do you learn to just look at something you whant to take a picutre of and know what to set the camera too.

First learn the principles, then SEE the principle in action.

For example,


  1. large aperture (small f/number) equates to 'shallow Depth of Field' and small aperature (large f/number) equates to 'deep Depth of Field'.
  2. high shutter speed (bigger number) equates to 'action stopping' and low shutter speed equates to 'motion blur'
  3. mall aperature (large f/number) and high shutter speed (bigger number) and low ISO value all translate to 'less light gathering power', which you have to juggle the three to obtain 'proper exposure'.
Now put the principles into action!...

  1. Go out and shoot the same scene employing a large aperture, then an intermediate aperture, then a small aperture, and go home an examine what that did to your DOF captured.
  2. Now go out and shoot the same scene with moving objects (like a highway with cars zooming by) employing a fast shutter speed, then an intermediate shutter speed, then a slow shutter speed, and go home an examine what that did to the ability to freeze motion.

...all the while keeping in mind the need to alter one of the other settings, to keep 'proper exposure' the Constant

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May 26, 2009 10:57 |  #26

Gentleman Villain wrote in post #7984938 (external link)
Don't worry about it....the camera figures out all of that stuff automatically. There's no need to learn any of it

Gentleman Villain wrote in post #7984980 (external link)
people have too much stress in their lives...there's really no need to worry...if the apirture is wrong it can always be fixed in PP

Oh man, this is gold! Thanks for the laugh, and those too that don't recognize jokes when you see them.

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May 26, 2009 11:35 |  #27

Gentleman Villain wrote in post #7990671 (external link)
that's true about sarcasm...Forums can also be humorless places too. The original un-edited post read like a text message from somebody riding a roller coaster. IF we can't have a little fun with a bad speller once in awhile then when can we have fun? I'm a bad speller too. OK now ...just so nobody thinks that's being too rude or condescending or whatever...here's a smiley face gif at the end :D

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May 26, 2009 12:38 as a reply to  @ shooterman's post |  #28

Have you figured out "don't be argent" yet? I have found it easier to understand the OP's posts by reading them with a stereotypical and racist oriental accent. "argent" = "arrogant"
This also helps one forgive the pigeon english and spelling of a non native speaker.
Disclaimer: I in no way endorse racist humor and take no pleasure from jokes made at the expense of anyone's ethnicity other than my own. I make the above suggestion only as an english comprehension aid.


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May 26, 2009 12:44 |  #29

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Have you figured out "don't be argent" yet? I have found it easier to understand the OP's posts by reading them with a stereotypical and racist oriental accent. "argent" = "arrogant"
This also helps one forgive the pigeon english and spelling of a non native speaker.
Disclaimer: I in no way endorse racist humor and take no pleasure from jokes made at the expense of anyone's ethnicity other than my own. I make the above suggestion only as an english comprehension aid.

:D I know their English is far better than my Japanese or Romanian or Farci or Tagalog or Flemish or...


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Spotmatic wrote in post #7991379 (external link)
Have you figured out "don't be argent" yet? I have found it easier to understand the OP's posts by reading them with a stereotypical and racist oriental accent. "argent" = "arrogant"
This also helps one forgive the pigeon english and spelling of a non native speaker.
Disclaimer: I in no way endorse racist humor and take no pleasure from jokes made at the expense of anyone's ethnicity other than my own. I make the above suggestion only as an english comprehension aid.

hahahahahahahahahahaha​!!!




  
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