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1DIII or 5DII - which one for ME???

 
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Jun 12, 2009 07:49 |  #1

OK, folks… I've gone through numerous threads discussing the ultimate war between the 1D III and the 5D II. I'm familiar with the differences, am aware of the pros and cons of each. The debate is pretty much split 50%-50%, but I was wondering if someone could help me recommend the right body FOR ME.

Quick overview of the two bodies:

1DIII
- Better, more extensive, and faster AF system
- 10fps
- 10mpx
- Shorter shutter lag
- Better build
- DIGIC III
- 1.3 crop
- Live View

5DII
- 21.1mpx
- Better handling of high ISO
- Better screen
- HD
- Longer shutter lag
- Inferior AF (compared to the 1DIII)
- Live View
- DIGIC IV
- FF

My current EF lenses line
50L, 70-200 f2.8 IS L, 100-400L

Lens purcahses planned on the horizon
24-70L, 16-35L

Main photography uses
Family (we have a 1.5 yr. old daughter, and twins on the way), automotive, aviation, track (race) days, air shows, and then some landscape/cityscapes.

My photography evolves roughly around 70% - 75% on family pictures, and the rest is fast moving objects as described above. However, even when shooting the family, often times, I try to track my daughter running around in the yard, and my 40D's focusing system fails measirably (I get about 50% keepers at best). A faster focusing system such as the one in the 1DIII, would be very useful for such situations. A faster fps would definitely be useful at the track and at air shows. I'm not a pro by any mean, but rather marely a hobbist. I do not make money off of photography, tough I've been offered to do some paid-for sessions (automotive, portraits, landmarks).

Other considerations
- I don't care for the 21.1mpx as I don't plan on blowing pictures and hanging posters around the house
- I DO like the ISO handling on the 5D. Will be very useful for indoor family portratures
- I don't care for Live View
- I don't care for HD video (I have a dedicated HD Camcorder)
- A FF body would work better indoors for wider FOV, while a 1.3 crop would be more useful at the track/air shows
- I don't care about the extra weight of the 1DIII as I'm planning on gripping the 5D anyways (should I choose to go with it)

My current bodies
40D & 30D - one or both will be sold in order to finance either a used 1DIII or a new 5DII. I may keep one of them as a backup, or maybe keep the 40D for it's higher fps for air shows and track days, and go with a 5D for family photography.

Other lenses that will be sold in order to finance the bodies above
17-55 f2.8 IS, 10-22 f3.5-4.5


So given the info above (hopefully, I've provided all the info), if you were in MY shoes, which body would you opt for. Please try to refrain from any biased opinions and try to respond while taking into consideration MY needs and requirements. I don't want to hear what YOU like or what YOU would do, but rather, what you think I SHOULD go for, and WHY. Also, feel free to take into consideration the current crop bodies I own when trying to come up with a combo or a mixed solution of 1.6/1.3/1.0 bodies - I may get rid of both, or keep one.

TIA :)


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Jun 12, 2009 07:55 |  #2

Interesting question.

I bought a 5DMk2 a couple months ago, using it mainly in sports, event and portrait photography. I bought this camera as an "upgrade" to a my 40D...

I recently purchased a 1D MK3 and have found the 5D gathering dust on my desk. Not that it isn't a great camera, it is. Amazing camera I'd say but what I have found is that I take the 40D and new 1D with me to events...

Actually considering selling the 5D MK2...too good of a camera to sit unused...


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Jun 12, 2009 07:55 |  #3

I'd go for the 1D3. It's a brilliant all-round camera and the high ISO is great, much better than most would expect.

Have you thought about the 1Ds2? Not sure about the price though, relative to the 5D2 and 1D3.




  
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Jun 12, 2009 08:04 |  #4

You've already got the 40D for air/track.

I'd suggest the 5DMkII for everything else.


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Jun 12, 2009 08:08 as a reply to  @ The Moose's post |  #5

Based on your priorities, I'd probably go with the 1DIII. Add a 16-35L when you can afford it.


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Jun 12, 2009 08:08 |  #6

Don't do this to yourself. Be a man!!! Buy the one that you intuitively like, by handling both. They are totally different to handle. Put each body in a bag with two lenses and experience the weights. The MKIII requires a bigger and better bag. Make your own mind up. I have both and all I can say is that I'm confused every time I have to make the choice of what to carry. Unless you are doing sports and wildlife, the 1DIII will not bring anything more to the party! If you are doing sports/wildlife then there's no contest. It's your decision. Don't base it on a poll.


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Jun 12, 2009 08:08 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #7

70% - 75% family photos = 5DmkII

25% - 30% action and event = 1DmkIII

I would say that the 5DmkII will get more useage for what your doing. Go for the 5DmkII.




  
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Jun 12, 2009 08:25 |  #8

aridan wrote in post #8095981 (external link)
Family (we have a 1.5 yr. old daughter, and twins on the way), automotive, aviation, track (race) days, air shows, and then some landscape/cityscapes.

My photography evolves roughly around 70% - 75% on family pictures, and the rest is fast moving objects as described above. However, even when shooting the family, often times, I try to track my daughter running around in the yard, and my 40D's focusing system fails measirably (I get about 50% keepers at best). A faster focusing system such as the one in the 1DIII, would be very useful for such situations. A faster fps would definitely be useful at the track and at air shows. I'm not a pro by any mean, but rather marely a hobbist. I do not make money off of photography, tough I've been offered to do some paid-for sessions (automotive, portraits, landmarks.

it seems as though the AF is the only compelling reason for you to go with the 1dmk3, and it seems like it'd be overkill for what you'd be using it for. tracking with the 40d or the 5d will take a bit more work, but with a little practice, it's more accurate than most people give it credit for. if you're a hobbyist, i don't think 10fps at tracks and airshows will outweigh the 5dmk2's benefits. 4fps will probably suffice for 99% of what you shoot.

the 5dmk2 makes a beautiful portrait, low-light, and landscape lens. as you said, it'll give you a true wide angle for indoor shots in tight spaces or spontaneous photos of your family.

i see the 1dmk3 as a speed demon, and for what you've described, you're looking for a well-rounded family-oriented platform for your lenses. the 5dmk2 just seems like a better fit for your needs in my opinion.


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Jun 12, 2009 08:26 |  #9

aridan wrote in post #8095981 (external link)
if you were in MY shoes, which body would you opt for.

Probably the 5D, but it really seems like your 40D is probably capable of meeting your needs considering your lenses and all. What don't you like about it?


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Jun 12, 2009 08:30 as a reply to  @ kouasupra's post |  #10

The 40D you already have with the 70-200 f2.8 IS L is a great action sport combo....Heck, my 30D is great for that will continue to be for a little while.

The 5D I or II, will be great for everything else.

I passed on a used Mark III mostly because as my next camera was going to be my work camera AND my "go to" camera, and the Mark III was a bit clunky for that role. Also, it wasn't something I wanted to be "walking around with"..

If you are shooting sport or heave duty travelling etc..as part of a business, now that's different.

After re-reading your post about the MP size etc...maybe the 5D Classic is more for you, get the grip, and take it off if you don't need it.

You might have some extra $$ for a MK III next year.




  
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Jun 12, 2009 08:40 |  #11

I personally am going to be rocking a 1D Mk II/III and my 40D.

Great setup.


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Jun 12, 2009 08:44 |  #12

I'd say you should get the 5D2 and keep your current 40D for the fast moving stuff...plus you might need the 1.6x crop factor.


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Jun 12, 2009 12:46 |  #13

Ahh.... thanks guys! Keep them coming! Much appreciated.


...decisions decisions...


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Jun 12, 2009 15:32 |  #14

5D2. Does sound like you'll need the 1 Series features as much as the IQ of the 5D2. Plus, it has video and you may want that for your family.


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Jun 12, 2009 15:45 |  #15

Geez... you guys aren't making it easy... huh? :)


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