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Is 50 1.4 better than 50 1.2L ?

 
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Jul 17, 2009 13:07 |  #1

I doubt that, but some reviews across the internet says that the 1.4 is better than the 1.2L.

Any thoughts?


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Jul 17, 2009 13:10 |  #2

I owned 2 50 f/1.4's, and I now own a 50 f/1.2. Neither of the 50 f/1.4's that I owned weren't really usable below f/2, and weren't nice until f/2.8. I use my 50L between f/1.2 - f/2 all the time without worrying about it.

So in my experience, the 50L has much better IQ and build, and has been worth the extra money.


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Jul 17, 2009 13:12 |  #3

I have neither, but judging from the pics it is no contest. The 50 1.2/l delivers far superior contrast, color, and bokeh. the 50 1.4 bokeh is almost awful by comparison. Now, I have heard of focus shift issues with the L, which is a shame, and there may be other issues with it as well. But looking at image quality, as far as I am concerned it is no contest.

Now, if you are looking at the sigma 1.4, things get a little more tricky.


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Jul 17, 2009 13:34 |  #4

timnosenzo wrote in post #8297264 (external link)
I owned 2 50 f/1.4's, and I now own a 50 f/1.2. Neither of the 50 f/1.4's that I owned weren't really usable below f/2, and weren't nice until f/2.8. I use my 50L between f/1.2 - f/2 all the time without worrying about it.

So in my experience, the 50L has much better IQ and build, and has been worth the extra money.

Must agree here, Just picked up a Canon 50 f1.4 and with test shots at f1.4 its quite soft...


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Jul 17, 2009 13:38 |  #5

The sigma gives a up a good fight against the 50L but eventually looses but not by almost a 1000 dollars.....

edit the only reason id be getting the 50L over the sigma 50 1.4 would be for my own ego....


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Jul 17, 2009 13:55 |  #6

The 1.4 is better than the 1.2 in price, size and weight.


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Jul 17, 2009 14:11 |  #7

Madweasel wrote in post #8297445 (external link)
The 1.4 is better than the 1.2 in price, size and weight.

Hence the 50 1.8 is the best of them all!:lol:




  
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Jul 17, 2009 14:16 |  #8

At f1.2 it's not :razz:


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Jul 17, 2009 15:01 |  #9

:) you guys are funny !!!

Thanks for the great insights on this!


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Jul 17, 2009 15:06 as a reply to  @ Fellipe de Paula's post |  #10

someone traded me something for a 1.2, so I had the pleasure of using one for a weekend... I didn't like it. Yes it was better at 1.2~2.0, but the 1.4 is very usable at 2.0 and even more open. Sure, to a bunch of photo geeks the 1.2 has better bokeh and maybe contrast, but not by enough a client would ever know the difference. The price and weight premiums were not worth it to me, especially not with the focus shift issues the 50L can have.

Basically, if you ONLY shoot 1.2~2, then the L has some merit, but if you shoot the whole range, it's not worth it IMHO.

but I JUST traded my canon 1.4 away today and I'll be getting a sigmalux in the next couple of weeks to try....


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Jul 17, 2009 16:17 |  #11

In comparison, the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lens is a great lens for the price. However, like some I can't justify the significant cost difference for it's big brother 1.2 L despite having slightly better IQ.


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Jul 17, 2009 16:48 |  #12

For my purposes the 50L definitely is better than any other 50 mm lens out there. Low light, almost perfect walkaround, macro lens (with a tube or two), landscape lens, half to full portraits, small group portraits, street photography, whether at night or during the day. The qualities that make it better than any other 50 mm out there is that is has good AF, which is plenty fast, great IQ from wide open, bokeh to die for, both in back- and foreground OOF areas (something which very few lenses can boost about), an incredible flare resistance, and a very large aperture.

In contrast to all 50s faster than F/2 I tried, it is the only lens that is good from wide open, save the Sigma, which is also good wide open. However, the 50L is 1/3 of a stop faster, and has, IMO, nicer bokeh and better contrast (and no colour cast). The only other 50 that is good wide open is the 50 F/2.5 CM. The 50 F/1.8 is usable at F/1.8, and very good at F/2. The 50 F/1.4 is excellent at F/2.8, but so-so before that, and not very good at all at near MFD.

I've also tested quite a bunch of MF 50s, with similar results as the 50 F/1.8 and 50 F/1.4. No surprise really, their designs all date from the same period. To date, I have tested a total of 26 different 50 mm lenses, of some models up to 7 different specimens (50 F/1.8 Mk II 7, Mk I 1, 50 F/1.4 5, 50L 5, Sigma 50 2, 50 CM 1, and some MF lenses with adapter).

All in all, I think the 50L is best, followed by the Sigma. Both may have their problems, but it looks of late that there are less "bad" copies around, which means no noticeable focus shift for the 50L, and no (small) focus shift and bad focusing for the Sigma.

The question alwasy is whether it is worth it to you. To me it is, but somebody else may have different criteria. Those may include price and rendering, and both are very personal.

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Jul 18, 2009 14:18 |  #13

The build quality of the 50L alone is worth it for me. The 50 1.4 is plastic-not-so-fantastic. IMHO.


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Jul 18, 2009 14:47 |  #14

I cannot believe someone is saying the 50/1.8 is "best" at anything other than a bargain - and even that is questionable.


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Jul 18, 2009 14:57 |  #15

Panza wrote in post #8302330 (external link)
The build quality of the 50L alone is worth it for me. The 50 1.4 is plastic-not-so-fantastic. IMHO.

The build on the 1.4 is just fine. Its the 1.8 that has build issues. Unless of course you make a habit of playing baseball with your lenses. In that case I don't think it matters what the build quality is.


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