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I need L glass like the 24-105, but faster

 
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Jul 17, 2009 16:23 |  #31

kekoa wrote in post #8298129 (external link)
Out of my butt? :rolleyes:

Yah, i have a 580 exII. Do I know how to use it? NO  :o

I read through the post and CDI beat me to pretty much what my thoughts were. Learn in particular how to bounce the flash correctly.

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Jul 17, 2009 23:17 |  #32

Just traded a 24-70L f/2.8 for a 24-105L f/4 on my 40D. Same subject as OP: taking pictures of the kids. I have found that f/2.8 is basically not fast enough @ ISO800. Tried a 50mm f/1.8 for experiement. Still not fast enough by ~1/2 stop. Just ordered a Sigma 50mm f/1.4. Let's see how that goes.

BTW, I do have a flash and bounce it off the ceiling works quite well. The problem is that half of my house has high ceilings and there is no ceiling to bounce against. So I ended up switching over to the build-in bounce card and 45degree angle with ok results. Still very directional light though. Also, I noticed E-TTL II metering tend to be 1/3 to 2/3 stop low so I basically always leave 2/3 step up. It's always easier to correct slight over exposure than slight under exposure in post processing.


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Jul 18, 2009 07:38 |  #33

liupublic wrote in post #8299906 (external link)
BTW, I do have a flash and bounce it off the ceiling works quite well. The problem is that half of my house has high ceilings and there is no ceiling to bounce against. .

How high are these high ceilings in your house? I've been able to bounce flash off the ceilings of high school gymnasiums with just a 430EX. Just use a reasonable ISO (400-800) and don't stop down too far and your flash range is probably a lot more than you think.


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Jul 18, 2009 08:36 |  #34

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How high are these high ceilings in your house? I've been able to bounce flash off the ceilings of high school gymnasiums with just a 430EX. Just use a reasonable ISO (400-800) and don't stop down too far and your flash range is probably a lot more than you think.

It's a sloping ceiling. Highest part is ~20ft. With a flash, my usually pick is ISO400, F5.6 and 1/125sec.


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Jul 18, 2009 09:25 |  #35

definitely get a flash.


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Jul 18, 2009 17:07 as a reply to  @ nureality's post |  #36

I have a 6-month old and have had much better results bouncing w/a flash (have 18ft vaulted ceiling in one room) than w/my nifty 50.

Try the flash!


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Jul 18, 2009 17:25 |  #37

egordon99 wrote in post #8295573 (external link)
That's pretty much the experience of ANY shooter, so you're showing your experience, good job!

OP - BUY A FLASH!!!!

The 24-70/2.8 is a great lens, but I think if you add a properly bounced flash to your 24-105, you will get some GREAT shots!


+1 i would also recommend a flash, it will help in more ways than one :D


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Jul 18, 2009 22:49 |  #38

Another flasher here. Wait... :oops:

I avoided using my flash for a long time because of the nuisance. But there's no getting around it - bouncing flash light will give you some really nice, soft lighting effects that just can't be achieved in many other situations. It's not like it's terribly hard to learn, either. Just put it on, turn it on, and start shooting. You'll get the basic hang of it within a few shots.


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Jul 18, 2009 23:09 |  #39

For the most part I have avoided flash when shooting my 20-month old daughter. I don't know if flash is harmful for young eyes but I certainly don't like bright flash constantly firing in my face.

I stick with window light and shoot with my 35 f1.4 wide open.


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