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I don't like my 5Dm2

 
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Jul 28, 2009 07:11 |  #91

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The funny thing is that I wasn't sensitive to it when I had the 5D / 1D mark II N combination! The two cameras felt different enough in my hands that the responsiveness of the 5D never came to light (my brain adjusted as I picked it up). When I bought the 50D, because they are so similar to each other, the 5D feels positively sluggish every time I pick it up! My best best guess as to why I am so aware of it now is that they are very similar in real use (all the controls, etc, are pretty much identical). And while I can accept that a four-year-old camera would feel that way, I cannot understand why the 5D2 feels almost the same!

Don't get me wrong - I love my 5D! I just don't understand why the new 5D2 is not more responsive. There is no need for it to be so sluggish! (And while we're at it, why does it only have a 1/200 sec max sync speed while the EOS xxD and EOS 1 series both have 1/250 sec? ???). I am not disputing the imaging capabilities of the 5D and 5D2. I am just wondering why Canon does not step up and try and keep up with the competition...

I couldn't agree more....I love the IQ of the 5D I, but when I got a used Mark II N, I've hardly used the 5D...and it's not that old! But I'll use the 5D in the home studio, on site portraits, out and about stuff, travel etc.....but having a fast crop body with a tele and a full frame for mid range lenses to me is the greatest combo!




  
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Jul 28, 2009 07:15 |  #92

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I dont know what's wrong with me..but I don't like my 5Dm2.

Simple then get rid of it and move on. I'm sure there are a lot of people who will be happy for a bargain.


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Jul 28, 2009 07:16 |  #93

I also recently went from a 40D to a 5D2. The cameras are apples and oranges... and while one might say they are different tools for different jobs, my 40D has recieved no love since I bought my 5D2.

Granted, that was just last week... :)


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Jul 28, 2009 07:25 |  #94

Rey wrote in post #8354712 (external link)
My 5D2 blew my 40D out the water. Everything about it was better. My 40D has been sitting in a bag since I got my 5D2, but I'll keep it as a second camera. I guess I'm not as sensitive as some of you are to the shutter button because mine feels just fine and responsive. Then again, I'm one of those who isn't bother by the weight of the 24-70 and that seems to be an issue with some people as well.

I've had similar experience - my 40D sat in the bag next to the older 5D, which has been the camera of choice until the 5DII came along. Now, the 5D sits in the bag as a backup. The 40D has been gone for many months now - a good camera, but its newer features weren't enough to get me to choose it over the 5-series bodies.


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Jul 28, 2009 09:17 |  #95

ConDigital wrote in post #8355988 (external link)
Simple then get rid of it and move on. I'm sure there are a lot of people who will be happy for a bargain.

Well, with all respect, I don't think that kind of advice is what the OP was looking for here. He obviously wants to like the camera but has not managed (so far), and wants to understand why and see whether he may change his mind. The issue is a legitimate one to be raised and has generated an interesting discussion. There is never going to be a final verdict in these matters, and we all know that. But many will benefit from the arguments raised (I have) and will be able to better inform their own views.


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Jul 28, 2009 17:14 |  #96

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Because a 5D or 5D2 uses consumer-camera-level mechanics to drive a large shutter and mirror. If you want the same alacrity as you'd have with a smaller mirror and shutter, it's certainly available. You just have to pay for it. It's called the Canon 1Ds.

Actually, I don't! It's called the D700! And that is the point... :)


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Jul 28, 2009 17:27 |  #97

Rudi wrote in post #8358678 (external link)
Actually, I don't! It's called the D700! And that is the point... :)

Yea, seriously there is no reason that Canon couldn't have given the 5DII a shorter mirror blackout and 5-6fps in sRAW. Its very sad that they didn't do this IMO.


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Jul 28, 2009 19:03 |  #98

Rudi wrote in post #8358678 (external link)
Actually, I don't! It's called the D700! And that is the point... :)

But it's not pushing 21 megapixels, either.


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Jul 29, 2009 08:04 |  #99

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But it's not pushing 21 megapixels, either.

The 1Ds III is, and that is more responsive. Fact is, I couldn't care less about the 21MP, I need a more responsive camera more than I need a super high-res camera. If I needed that, I would be shooting MF.


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Jul 29, 2009 08:07 |  #100

Rudi wrote in post #8362060 (external link)
I need a more responsive camera more than I need a super high-res camera.

Sounds like the 5D MKII isn't the camera for you! ;)


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Jul 29, 2009 08:13 |  #101

timnosenzo wrote in post #8362071 (external link)
Sounds like the 5D MKII isn't the camera for you! ;)

:lol: There's a sharp-eyed observation! ;) Nope, it's not for me, and that s why I haven't "upgraded" my 5D Classic yet. Still thinking about a solution...


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Jul 29, 2009 08:34 |  #102

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noticable improvement of the 1600 iso from my 40d, I'd argue and worlds better than 3200 on the 40d.

WOW! Better at 1600 even?


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Jul 29, 2009 08:44 |  #103

tharmsen wrote in post #8354597 (external link)
I'm with you John. I can't believe the quality of my 5DMk2 images. I will shoot this camera until it dies. I just can't imagine they'll make another camera any time soon that produces better images. They might toss in some new fancy gizmos I might want, but the images coming out of this thing are nothing short of amazing. For that reason alone I plan on keeping it until it dies.

I would agree if you added "for the money" you have the 1dIII, but I have seen some really superb images from the 1dsIII


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Jul 29, 2009 08:53 |  #104

My 40d hasn't been out of the bag since November when I bought the 5d2. Save for last weekend, shooting top fuel drag boats.. where the 5d2 just didn't have the FPS needed for a 250mph rocket on plane.

If the OP is comparing the 40d and 5d2 files @ pixel level, I can see how you're less than astounded by the camera. You'd better have top notch glass while peeping the 5d2 if you want to keep awing yourself. Else, just back up a bit and enjoy the camera for the beast it truly is. There likely will NOT be anything better until the black silicone technology becomes commonplace.


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Jul 29, 2009 08:57 as a reply to  @ whitewolfphoto's post |  #105

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noticable improvement of the 1600 iso from my 40d, I'd argue and worlds better than 3200 on the 40d.

WOW! Better at 1600 even?

I notice a difference for sure. I am very comfortable shooting the 5d II at 800, 1000 and 1600 for work related shots. With the 40d, I'd shoot 1600, but was always a little nervous. The 5d II seems, to me, to provide a much cleaner shot at 1600. I haven't had the 5d II that long, though and really haven't tested the two side by side (I don't need the faster response time on the 40d often, so it has lounged in my bag for the last few weeks). 3200 ISO on the 5d II really blows the 40d away--and 6400 is really a usable iso for me. (12000 and 26000 are great to have, but don't produce the images that I would find useful--though some image is sure better than none!)

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