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Jul 29, 2009 13:39 |  #16

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I looked and the autocorrection was not checked so I went ahead and saved them all as a new default to 0.

Looks like you missed this part:

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By default, ACR sets Brightness to 50, Contrast to 25, and Blacks to 5 (in the Basic tab).


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Jul 29, 2009 15:51 |  #17

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If the camera viewer is showing the jpeg that is in the raw then why not shoot jpeg and get exactly what you see?

First, why do you assume that the jpg is "exactly what you see"?
Second, some folks strive to produce a faithful record of what they saw, others try to join emotional content to their visual experience, and a third group sees manipulation of the image as a part of the creative process as much as lens choice and composition. Different strokes...


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Jul 30, 2009 06:00 as a reply to  @ tzalman's post |  #18

I compare what I see writing to the card to what I see on my monitor and they are about 95% of what I seen writing to the card so that is about as close as I can get (when I shoot jpeg)..raw is something entirely different..what I see on the monitor is no where near what is written to the card.




  
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Jul 30, 2009 06:01 |  #19

René Damkot wrote in post #8363934 (external link)
Looks like you missed this part:

Sorry..I did miss it..thanks....

Why would they have defaults on raw that are not 0 letting you make all the decisions.




  
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Jul 30, 2009 06:36 |  #20

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Why would they have defaults on raw that are not 0 letting you make all the decisions.

Adobe "Logic" I presume ;)

Don't worry, it's just arbitrary numbers...


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Jul 30, 2009 07:59 |  #21

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I compare what I see writing to the card to what I see on my monitor and they are about 95% of what I seen writing to the card so that is about as close as I can get (when I shoot jpeg)..raw is something entirely different..what I see on the monitor is no where near what is written to the card.

Because on the lcd you see Canon processing and on the monitor you see Adobe processing. Neither processing is right or wrong, they just are. It's a matter of taste, judgement and objectives which one you prefer. But if you want to see the same thing on the camera's lcd and the monitor, use DPP.


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Jul 30, 2009 08:21 |  #22

Also, your camera display is not color managed, and hopelessly inaccurate as well. What brightness do you have it set for instance? Are you looking at it in daylight or inside a dimly lit room?

The only use for the built in display is to judge composition and histogram IMO, certainly not critical white balance and / or exposure ;)


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Jul 30, 2009 11:21 |  #23

tzalman wrote in post #8368171 (external link)
Because on the lcd you see Canon processing and on the monitor you see Adobe processing. Neither processing is right or wrong, they just are. It's a matter of taste, judgement and objectives which one you prefer. But if you want to see the same thing on the camera's lcd and the monitor, use DPP.

I thought about that but that means working on the raw file in DPP and saving it to jpeg for further processing in Adobe for special effects, filters, etc and that further degrades the image.....that is why I try to do everything in one program..




  
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Jul 30, 2009 11:38 |  #24

Do anything that can be done in Raw in DPP, convert to a 16bpc tiff file, and all will be well....


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Jul 30, 2009 12:39 |  #25

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Do anything that can be done in Raw in DPP, convert to a 16bpc tiff file, and all will be well....

Sounds good except that means opening in one program..then opening up another program working on the same file for something else that needs to be done to the same image..I wish I could do everything in one program and work on one image at a time for everything and then close it for good.

I'd work on an image once instead of 2 or 3 times in different programs. :(




  
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Jul 30, 2009 12:47 |  #26

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Sounds good except that means opening in one program..then opening up another program working on the same file for something else that needs to be done to the same image..I wish I could do everything in one program and work on one image at a time for everything and then close it for good.

I'd work on an image once instead of 2 or 3 times in different programs. :(

Well CS/ACR are your simplest option, and just getting to live with what you may not prefer. Honestly, many, many people are happy with that workflow (although I myself am a Lightroom user).


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Jul 30, 2009 13:07 |  #27

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Well CS/ACR are your simplest option, and just getting to live with what you may not prefer. Honestly, many, many people are happy with that workflow (although I myself am a Lightroom user).

Yeah, sadly I'm seeing that. I just tried DPP and forget that...you don't have all the features to work on a raw file like Photoshop does. Canon better catch up.




  
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Jul 30, 2009 13:11 |  #28

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Yeah, sadly I'm seeing that. I just tried DPP and forget that...you don't have all the features to work on a raw file like Photoshop does. Canon better catch up.

Heh, well Canon has "caught up" quite a bit over the past couple of years, especially for free software:). But Adobe has major mojo, not just the original Camera Raw team, but they acquired the Capture One software and some of their brains back, what, a couple of years or so ago, so they are pretty heavy hitters and I think Canon and even Aperture are scurrying to catch up and try to keep up with ACR and Lightroom.


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Jul 30, 2009 13:27 |  #29

tonylong wrote in post #8369833 (external link)
Heh, well Canon has "caught up" quite a bit over the past couple of years, especially for free software:). But Adobe has major mojo, not just the original Camera Raw team, but they acquired the Capture One software and some of their brains back, what, a couple of years or so ago, so they are pretty heavy hitters and I think Canon and even Aperture are scurrying to catch up and try to keep up with ACR and Lightroom.

I don't know if they will catch up or not. I tried Lightroom, just isn't my cup of tea...




  
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Jul 30, 2009 13:35 |  #30

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I don't know if they will catch up or not. I tried Lightroom, just isn't my cup of tea...

Try it with a touch of cream:)...


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