New Nikon lenses and bodies

Depth wrote in post #8370521
For the average Rebel user, they can buy memory for dirt cheap. I doubt it's effected sales especially with the perception of SD being better.

You can get a 8GB CF card for $20 as well, the question is, most people don't know what to do with their old cameras and now have to ditch old memory. That's where we find great deals!!!

Yes, it's a problem. Ignorance is shown by people that have never work camera retail. People hate having to ditch old memory no matter how cheap new memory is, well, pending how cheap. $10 is cheap but anything more they seem to question.

_aravena wrote in post #8370981
You can get a 8GB CF card for $20 as well, the question is, most people don't know what to do with their old cameras and now have to ditch old memory. That's where we find great deals!!!

Yes, it's a problem. Ignorance is shown by people that have never work camera retail. People hate having to ditch old memory no matter how cheap new memory is, well, pending how cheap. $10 is cheap but anything more they seem to question.

I've seen/overheard people in stores get mad over incredibly small things

People looking to spend say, $1000 on a TV then scoff at paying $20 for a cable

That said i dont understand why Canon and them with the entry level dSLRs dont just include a 2-4gb SD card with them, One box solution, pull it out of the box and you're ready to go!

KenjiS wrote in post #8371157
I've seen/overheard people in stores get mad over incredibly small things

People looking to spend say, $1000 on a TV then scoff at paying $20 for a cable

That said i dont understand why Canon and them with the entry level dSLRs dont just include a 2-4gb SD card with them, One box solution, pull it out of the box and you're ready to go!

Yes seriously, when I got my Nikon D60 kit I was shocked to hear that they'd include everything but a memory card. The kit was made for beginners, if you order that online and you've never had an SLR before, there is no way in hell that you're going to assume that you need a memory card.

Anyways, I'm in the process of selling my Nikon D60 and getting a D90. I'm happy with new market trends, regardless what brand of camera we're talking about. I hope that Canon follows the trend, be it now or soon. In the end, it's the photographer that takes the pictures, not the camera.

Canon and Nikon should publish their product roadmap, just like Intel/AMD.
I guess Jap companies just don't like to do that, and prefer to 'surprise' us...
'SURPRISE!'

KenjiS wrote in post #8370522
I disagree, SD cards have a lot of problems in my opinion, I for one really dont like the form factor of them, I HATE these stupid trends towards making everything incredibly tiny...

Though I agree with your hate, I disagree with your assessment of the future. Like it or not, SD (smaller is better ) will take over.

cfibanez wrote in post #8370575
Another one-point shooter here. But being able to choose that one point among 51 points covering the whole viewfinder —as opposed to 9 all cluttered at the center— would be a great improvement. At this point in time, I feel that Canon has the glass, while Nikon has the bodies, at least in the sub-pro segment. That may change again soon though.

Not me. 51 points is ridiculous IMHO. I'd rather have them hidden for tracking than be able to select them. Or perhaps have the option of turning them off and having less to choose from. That would be cool.

Don't Nikon guys complain about the 51 points not working well enough for them?

Stealthy Ninja wrote in post #8372765
Though I agree with your hate, I disagree with your assessment of the future. Like it or not, SD (smaller is better ) will take over.

You forgot about CFast

Not me. 51 points is ridiculous IMHO. I'd rather have them hidden for tracking than be able to select them. Or perhaps have the option of turning them off and having less to choose from. That would be cool.

Don't Nikon guys complain about the 51 points not working well enough for them?

Actually you can do that on the Nikon 51-point and the Canon 45-point systems limiting them down in the number of points, with the other points just working for assist when you're tracking...

CF may be faster etc. but you know the way of these things. SD will probably take over anyway.

It is a bit annoying that Canon don't put the 1D AF system in lower cameras, but honestly for me personally, I don't think it matters. For some people it would.

If I were doing sports (which I don't do much really) I would probably have kept my 40D.

Stealthy Ninja wrote in post #8372765
Though I agree with your hate, I disagree with your assessment of the future. Like it or not, SD (smaller is better ) will take over.

it's hard to say. i agree that trends usually favor smaller and lighter, but i think the cf/sd shift isn't written on the wall. mainly, cf cards are downright stronger and more durable. i've seen sd cards literally smashed apart with relatively little force (i could probably do it if i had one at the bottom of my bag and shifted the weight of my 70-200 at a bad angle for it. i've seen the top piece of plastic separate from the bottom, the lock switch fall off, etc. cf cards on the other hand seem more suited for the rigors of professional use. they're heavy duty and seem to be able to take any abuse you throw at them.

as long as professional DSLRs remain as large as they are today, they will always have enough room to accomodate cf cards, and they're just professionally a better fit because of their proven reliability and build.

Stealthy Ninja wrote in post #8372796
CF may be faster etc. but you know the way of these things. SD will probably take over anyway.

It is a bit annoying that Canon don't put the 1D AF system in lower cameras, but honestly for me personally, I don't think it matters. For some people it would.

If I were doing sports (which I don't do much really) I would probably have kept my 40D.

CFast is a new version of CF, based around SATA instead of PATA, much faster and it deals away with the weakest part of the CF package, the pins...

Moving on...

Well one reason as i understand is they cant fit the 45-point sensor in the 1.6x Crop cameras...the mirror box is not big enough or something along those lines according to one Canon rep..

The entire reasoning on the new 60D specs that leaked out at CR earlier today even states that Canon didnt want to get a new AF system -entirely- because of the AF assist on their flash units, They're only designed to cover 7, 9, or 45 points....so the new AF system had to somehow conform to that...That makes sense to me, it would really suck if you had to buy a new flash unit to get Assist back on your new body...

What they're suggesting is a 19-point trimmed down version of the NEW 45-point AF in the new 1D which would allow the Assist system to just use its 45-point config to flood the area...

Basically its similar to my idea, the big difference between the 1D AF and the xxD AF is going to be the 26 assist points, And thats fine by me!

So my guess is the new 45-point AF sensor for the new 1D is slightly smaller or designed to also fit into the mirror box of a xxD, this also may explain the slightly larger viewfinder in the rumor as well [To accomidate it..] Since the current 40/50D viewfinder is as big as the 1D Mark IIs...this actually makes sense

Did anyone notice that the D300S will allow autofocus while recording video?

la canon amateur wrote in post #8373216
Did anyone notice that the D300S will allow autofocus while recording video?

Contrast detect AF..which Canon also does if i remember right...

Its honestly not that good..Very slow...

I get a good laugh at all the NIKON fans making fun of Canon people because of the video implementation put forth on a 5D. Statements I hear on different post claiming it is a gimmick and no one would use it blah blah blah. And it looks like now that the marketing people at NIKON is realizing that WOW, a high end DSLR with HD video is selling like hot cakes such as the 5dm2. I guess there is no going back now, CANON, NIKON, Pentax, Sony, etc will pretty much all have video functions and that will never go away. LOL

I have never used the Video on my 5DMKII....

condyk wrote in post #8369970
How do you know the new 70-200 is better than the old one? Guess work? I've not seen any tests as yet.

It's £1499 over here which takes it a bit close to D700 territory. I'm sure it'll drop but I've lost interest until it does. D300 is great but not that great

I can't see the FPS and 12/14 bit thing for the D300s anywhere! Is there an official link to that?

the new 70-200 will have the same treatment as the nikon 14-24 which is uber sharp. So my estimate is that the 70-200 VR II will also be uber sharp.

KenjiS wrote in post #8370485
I think Dual Card slots [SD and CF] fix a problem right now..

Right now, if you shoot a Rebel you use SD, but if you shoot a xxD you shoot CF..

So if they make the next xxD SD-compatable to get people to move up from Rebels easier, the existing xxD users will be very upset

But if they keep it CF theres a lot of Rebel users who dont want to trade up because they'll lose all their CF cards..

I know it sounds stupid, but it is an issue that comes up here it seems

And I'm a single point shooter because my center point is the only one that works well....but i do track moving subjects Nikon's enlarged center and ancillary points are kinda nice sometimes too...

I haven't thought about that. Yeah the dual slot makes it easier for P&S shooters and entry level DSLR shooters to go into the D300s.