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I'm tired of fake digital photos!

 
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Aug 02, 2009 21:45 |  #1

It seems like everyone loves a super edited digital photo these days. What's the deal? If it's not stiched, HDR, or otherwise seriously altered in photoshop it seems like it's not a good photo in today's standards. I'm just so tired of people going gaga over super-enhanced photos!! Thumbs down to the phonies. Am I just behind the times? Is super-processing what makes the best photos?


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Aug 02, 2009 21:48 |  #2

Did it bug you this much when Ansel Adams spent 4 hours in a dark room dodging and burning?


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Aug 02, 2009 21:50 |  #3

You realize that many of todays processes in photoshop, HDRs, panos have been around and used since the 1800s? This isnt new stuff thats come along with digital.


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Aug 02, 2009 21:50 |  #4

mattograph wrote in post #8387903 (external link)
Did it bug you this much when Ansel Adams spent 4 hours in a dark room dodging and burning?

or worked with pre-digital HDR? "expose for the shadows, develop for the highlights..." :p

also, you want to see some un-real "real" stuff as rendered by film, check out the colors on a no longer produced slide film by fuji called fortia. WOW. I would've loved to have tried some of that.

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Aug 02, 2009 21:53 |  #5

What? my dear Ansel? *faints*


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Aug 02, 2009 21:55 |  #6

Someone get this man a glass of water!


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Aug 02, 2009 22:06 |  #7

There is a difference in the manipulation of a scenic image and an editorial or news shot.

Yes Ansel did heavily dodge, burn and use chemistry to alter the image. But retouching is not something relied on as today's "photographers" do. WE alter eyes, remove unwanted items. drastically altering the "truth" of an image.... But Ansel was not a news photographer either. I have met more than a few of his students and a few of his darkroom technicians as well. Most hate PS with a passion. It does not require any real skill according to them.


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Aug 02, 2009 22:07 |  #8

I don't know, I've seen some super edited stuff that is just killer. I guess if you can do it right, then why not? And by right I mean top quality work.

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Aug 02, 2009 22:09 |  #9

If Annie Leibowitz knew about photoshop, think of all the money she could have saved in renting that elephant. she would LOVE to have those bucks back.


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Aug 02, 2009 22:13 as a reply to  @ Jon Foster's post |  #10

Hypocrisy raises it's head anew...those B&W's on your flicker account...did they come from the camera like that?


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Aug 02, 2009 22:14 |  #11

If there is some kind of Univeral rulebook that describes the amount of "editing" that can be done in PS and still be able to call it a "real" photo, please forward me the link.

Otherwise...yes...you are behind the times.




  
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Aug 02, 2009 22:15 |  #12

No...the lighting actually looked like that. I swear...:lol:;)

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Hypocrisy raises it's head anew...those B&W's on your flicker account...did they come from the camera like that?




  
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Aug 02, 2009 22:16 |  #13

nicksan wrote in post #8388008 (external link)
If there is some kind of Univeral rulebook that describes the amount of "editing" that can be done in PS and still be able to call it a "real" photo, please forward me the link.

Otherwise...yes...you are behind the times.

Send that link to me too.  :p


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Aug 02, 2009 22:30 |  #14

I sort of see where you are coming from, but at the same time it is up to you how much processing you want to do. If you don't like the style of the "over edited" photos you have been seeing I encourage you to shoot with as little edits as possible.

Honestly I try and edit as little as possible in most situations, but there are some times when I have to do a bit of processing to get the look I am going for.


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Aug 02, 2009 22:32 |  #15

chauncey wrote in post #8388003 (external link)
Hypocrisy raises it's head anew...those B&W's on your flicker account...did they come from the camera like that?

Oh please. Thanks for calling me a hypocrite for my 15 seconds of DPP post processing.


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