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Aug 03, 2009 05:44 as a reply to  @ post 8389324 |  #16

Why stick any glass in front of your lens unless you are in a specific situation where the lens is going to get salty or dusty/dirty. Under normal general conditions don/t use a UV!


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Aug 03, 2009 06:48 |  #17
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I honestly had no idea either, until I read a threat a couple days ago on this. Definitely going to do some more research now.




  
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Aug 03, 2009 06:56 |  #18

Bottom line: don't be cheap with filter, either don't use it or buy the good or top lines (B+W).


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Aug 03, 2009 07:27 |  #19

I never use UV filters when shooting, been screwed too many times. Instead, I use a hood to protect the lens.


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Aug 03, 2009 07:38 |  #20

Just to buck some of the parrot, rote responses, I use high quality multi-coated filters on all of my lenses except my 135 (has flare/contrast issues with a filter), and have yet to have a client complain about my photos because of the use of filters or lack of sharpness.

Why do I use filters?

  • Better Resale--Front element is protected, so I'm cleaning a cheap(er) replaceable part rather than the front element.
  • Weather sealing--Most weather-sealed Ls are not sealed without a filter on the end (I shoot in dust/rain fairly regularly)


Do I think it's really necessary to have a filter? No. But I did want to offer another perspective from someone who has some experience (and success) using filters regularly.

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Aug 03, 2009 08:13 |  #21

MDJAK wrote in post #8384837 (external link)
There's another lesson here.

Besides Grad ND filters for special effects, Polarizer filters, don't use filters at all. Even expensive ones will degrade IQ.

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NOT TRUE. If you buy the best, any IQ degradation, if there even is any, is indistinguishable. But the price of such protection is high. But worth it if you ask me.
Its just a shame the new pricing policy HOYA has implemented... the days of discounts are over.


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Aug 03, 2009 08:22 |  #22

neil_r wrote in post #8384845 (external link)
Why would you spend big $ on any lens and then stick a small $ filter in front of it ???


I know, it's like buying a Ferarri and replacing the engine with a Toyota Yaris engine. Personally I use a Lens hood only and the only filters I would ever use is a ND or CPL filter. Even then I would only buy B&W or Hoya's top end.


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Aug 03, 2009 08:31 |  #23

wytwolf wrote in post #8389804 (external link)
I know, it's like buying a Ferarri and replacing the engine with a Toyota Yaris engine.

Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Care to back up your analogy with some examples?


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Aug 03, 2009 08:43 as a reply to  @ Markitos's post |  #24

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MDJAK wrote in post #8384837 (external link)
There's another lesson here.

Besides Grad ND filters for special effects, Polarizer filters, don't use filters at all. Even expensive ones will degrade IQ.

me

Luvntravln wrote in post #8389334 (external link)
Why stick any glass in front of your lens unless you are in a specific situation where the lens is going to get salty or dusty/dirty. Under normal general conditions don/t use a UV!

philodelphi wrote in post #8389621 (external link)
I never use UV filters when shooting, been screwed too many times. Instead, I use a hood to protect the lens.

I do have some UV filters which I use when salt spray or sand demands it. But I prefer hoods whenever possible. I do use GNDs, CPs and NDs a lot though, but those are just to get effects I can't (or choose not to) in PS. The protection from dropping issue has never been proven. I'd bet hoods do just as well and the thought of having shattered glass in front of my good front element scares the crap out of me. Further, I just avoid dropping my gear but have it insured just in case.


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Aug 03, 2009 11:55 |  #25

Markitos wrote in post #8389654 (external link)
Why do I use filters?
  • Weather sealing--Most weather-sealed Ls are not sealed without a filter on the end (I shoot in dust/rain fairly regularly)

But your 5D isn't weather sealed?


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Aug 03, 2009 14:58 |  #26

hollis_f wrote in post #8390892 (external link)
[/LIST]But your 5D isn't weather sealed?

I never claimed it was... but, in the spirit of adding a filter to complete a lens's weather sealing, wouldn't it be prudent to add something to protect the camera body as well? The idea is to try to weather seal things more, rather than cross one's fingers and hope for the best.

Sorry, but your logic is flawed.


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