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50mm f1.4 or 85mm f1.8 - Oh PLEASE make my mind up!!

 
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Aug 03, 2009 16:07 |  #1

I am getting my new (to me) 400D this week and already have a EF-S 18-55mm IS waiting to go on.

I like taking candid/street/portrait and i think i would like to go prime. I have been blown away by the quality of the 50mm f1.4 and the 85mm f1.8 and would like to get one of these lenses but i don't know which. I have enough for either (not both! :( )as they are about £280 new each .

I think the 50mm would be great but i'm worried that it may be a bit short for candid as i don't want to get into peoples faces while taking their photo, i like to hide a bit!

Another option i have thought about for the same money is the 50mm f1.8 and the 55-250 IS. The 55-250 IS would let me shoot from a distance but i'm not sure the image quality is there although i would be happy with the Nifty f1.8.

I have also been offered a 60mm Macro but i don't know if the reach is there.

Your thoughts...

Thanx in advance

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Aug 03, 2009 16:18 |  #2

85 1.8 would be my choice out of those options. I love mine, the 50 gets almost no use.

The 85 would be a good inconspicuous lens for shooting candids, much smaller than the 55-250. The 50 I feel would be too wide for getting street shots of people.

The Nifty is okay for good light, it focus hunts a lot in lower light situations and the focus all together is rather slow so if you have a moving target, good luck.

Hope this helps. I'm fairly biased toward the 85 1.8 I think its an amazing lens.


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Aug 03, 2009 16:25 |  #3

My thoughts...
Do not consider to buy anything before you have granted yourself to play around with your 400D/18-55.

Decide when you know what you are missing (plenty of reading stuff on this forum).
If you are missing reach on the long end, getting a 50 or 60 mm makes no sense.
If pictures taken are blurred due to subject movement, IS will not help and you need a lens with a wide maximum aperture.
If both apply, get a 100/F2 or 85/1.8 or start saving for 200/F2.8




  
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Aug 03, 2009 17:05 |  #4

I agree with hennie. Decide how you like to shoot first, and then you can say what you're missing.
For me, if it had to be a choice between the two I'd definitely go for the 85mm 1.8
The 60mm macro is for... well, macro. It's supposed to be the crop equivalent of the EF 100mm macro, so unless that's your thing, the slower AF and aperture won't do much for you.


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Aug 03, 2009 21:35 |  #5

To be honest. I would get both. I have the Sigma 1.4 and Canon 85 1.8, and I love them both. On a cropped body I couldn't imagine not having both. On a FF body I wouldn't mind having the 85 1.8 and 135 2.0


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Aug 03, 2009 21:39 |  #6

Honestly, I find that the 50mm on my crop body gets plenty close enough. You might consider renting both the 50 and the 85 if you can, but for all intents and purposes the difference in how far you can be from a subject won't be that much between the two lenses. If you really want to be incognito than you need a longer prime like the others suggested, but that pretty much means an L lens and may be beyond your budget.


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Aug 03, 2009 21:44 |  #7

85/1.8.

50mm is too short for candids if you like to keep your distance. You'll get the equivalent FOV of the 135mm on my 5D, and I love that length for candid/street/festival​.

I have the means, but have zero desire to own the Canon 50/1.4. It doesn't have ring-USM, its bokeh is IMO horrendous, and I don't think you'll find it long enough.

The recommendations to try your 18-55 IS for a while are good, but if you have the means to buy the 85/1.8, I think it would be perfect, based on your flickr images.

The Nifty is too short and too slow (AF speed), and the 60 macro is only f/2.8 - not great for subject isolation on a busy street or festival.



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Aug 04, 2009 00:51 |  #8

I'd get the 85/1.8 for candids... it's also a better built lens than the 50/1.4




  
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Aug 04, 2009 01:15 |  #9

I reccomended to start using what you have just chosen is not because I don't think the 85/1.8 or the 50/1.4 would be usefull.

By looking forward to your next buy even before the current one is deliverd you run the risk of never being happy with what you have got, that really is a waste of money.
Better think before you buy
There will allways be a next piece of glass waiting.

In another post TS stated that the 50 and 55-250 have been ordered... so whatever we say here will not help ts in making up his mind.




  
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Aug 04, 2009 01:25 |  #10

Thanks for they reply's peeps. I have kinda set my heart on a 85mm 1.8 but will hang back until i try out the 18-55 a bit.

Many thanks

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Aug 04, 2009 01:39 |  #11

Definitely the 85 1.8 if you have the 18-55 as a normal zoom.


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Aug 04, 2009 05:52 |  #12
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Ugh don't bother with that 50 1.8 --




  
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Aug 04, 2009 06:10 |  #13

Before my 70-200 came, I was very very comfortable with my 17-40L and 85mm ƒ/1.8. When the 70-200 2.8L IS came, I really had to get used to the weight and bulk, but because of the convenience of zoom, didn't use my 85 1.8 for 4 months. Sold that, and got myself the 50 1.4.

18-55 IS + 85 1.8 is very similar to my old 17-40L and 85mm in terms of focal length. Go for it! The 85 1.8 gave me great portfolio worthy shots.


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Aug 04, 2009 09:45 as a reply to  @ Headshotzx's post |  #14

The 85 f1.8 on a 1.6 crop body is just right for incognito street shooting, especially if you don't use the (rather large and flimsy) hood for it. Even if you are noticed most people think you are shooting much wider, as the lens is so small.


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Aug 04, 2009 09:51 |  #15

Mike Bell wrote in post #8396590 (external link)
The 85 f1.8 on a 1.6 crop body is just right for incognito street shooting, especially if you don't use the (rather large and flimsy) hood for it. Even if you are noticed most people think you are shooting much wider, as the lens is so small.

This is true. Used it on my 40D with the hood on Sunday and the kids kept doing what they were doing. I'm getting a 5D this week to try out. I'm going to miss the reach of the 85 on a crop, but I can crop and resize the 5D and 85. The 5D and 135 is not in my price range, unless I sell some gear.

I will say the 40D and 85 was a perfect match for what I needed it for this weekend. I'm ready to try the 5D though.


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