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Aug 13, 2009 08:54 |  #1

Hi guys. I have been asked to do some contract work like kid's parties, 21st's and weddings as well. I am looking to change or add to my collection so need some assistance here.

I currently have a 50mm f1.4 and a Tamron 17-50 f2.8. I love both but if the Tamron must go, it must go.

I have an opportunity to buy two second hand lenses from my local camera store: Canon 17-35 f2.8 L and the older Canon 28-70 f2.8 L. The 28-70 is around $125 more expensive so not much difference there.

Please help me decide what to go for.

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Aug 13, 2009 08:57 |  #2

What problems have you got with the Tamron 17-50?
Of those lenses you mention, personally I would stick with the Tamron.


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Aug 13, 2009 09:02 |  #3

breathtakingbluesky wrote in post #8452016 (external link)
What problems have you got with the Tamron 17-50?
Of those lenses you mention, personally I would stick with the Tamron.


Hunting in low light but that's about it. I'm just assuming that the L glass has a better quality image than a Tamron would have. The extra reach of 70mm is also handy.


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Aug 13, 2009 09:09 |  #4

r-06264 wrote in post #8452044 (external link)
Hunting in low light but that's about it. I'm just assuming that the L glass has a better quality image than a Tamron would have. The extra reach of 70mm is also handy.

Take your camera to the store and try the used lenses they have. Use your own for the same scenes (inside the shop stuff?) and then compare the results at home.


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Aug 13, 2009 09:21 |  #5

You are not going to get much if any improvement changing from one f/2.8 lens to another. The best work round would be to use the AF assist beam from the ST-E2 or a Speedlite with flash set to off.




  
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Aug 13, 2009 09:21 |  #6

The guy above is correct. Check your lens against theirs at the store. I recently did the same when a 16-35mm II came on the market used. Manually focused and braced to eliminated shake, the type II was marginally sharper at the edges than my type I--but not so much that it was worth the extra money the store wanted on a trade.

I would expect the 28-70 L to out perform your 17-50 in overall sharpness, but you would lose the width that is very important in shooting clusters of children.

The 17-35 was a short-lived lens in the Canon lineup between the very satisfactory 20-35 and the 16-35. It provided a filter slot on the rear of the lens, so the front element probably protrudes more than the other versions. Like other Canon lenses with inline filters, the filter may be a required part of the lens system--best to check before you buy.


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Aug 13, 2009 09:22 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #7

i've had the 17-35L, 28-70L and 17-50SP.

the 17-50SP i didn't use so much, so i can't really comment; but the 28-70L is great and the 17-35L was mushy soft for me.


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Aug 13, 2009 09:23 |  #8

the 17-24 range is a lot to lose on a crop camera.


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Aug 13, 2009 09:24 |  #9

SkipD wrote in post #8452081 (external link)
Take your camera to the store and try the used lenses they have. Use your own for the same scenes (inside the shop stuff?) and then compare the results at home.

I get the feeling here that there is not much of a difference between the Tamron and the Canon L range.

The 28-70 is really appealing to me tbh. Eish...


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Aug 13, 2009 09:24 |  #10

CosmoKid wrote in post #8452153 (external link)
the 17-24 range is a lot to lose on a crop camera.

+1
especially indoor group shots like kids parties


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Aug 13, 2009 09:26 as a reply to  @ r-06264's post |  #11

Ok subsequent comments are noted.

Hmmm... everyone makes perfect sense. Next question - if I keep the Tamron would there be a reason to go for the 28-70 as well based on the work I want to do??


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Aug 13, 2009 09:55 |  #12

r-06264 wrote in post #8452172 (external link)
Ok subsequent comments are noted.

Hmmm... everyone makes perfect sense. Next question - if I keep the Tamron would there be a reason to go for the 28-70 as well based on the work I want to do??

If you find the 28-70 gives you superior IQ, you could use it for that bit of extra reach and for portraiture.


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Aug 13, 2009 10:30 |  #13

aren't you using flash in all of these situations?


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Aug 13, 2009 10:33 |  #14

I would like the 17-50, just to get the wide side. You can always move closer, but having as wide as you can get, especially with a crop-factor on your camera. My $0.02

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Aug 13, 2009 10:47 |  #15

r-06264 wrote in post #8451998 (external link)
I have an opportunity to buy two second hand lenses from my local camera store: Canon 17-35 f2.8 L and the older Canon 28-70 f2.8 L. The 28-70 is around $125 more expensive so not much difference there.

I have a 28-70 f2.8 and love it, it is my work horse lens for portraits and weddings it nails focus every time (even in very low light) and delivers stunning images. I used to use it on a crop camera and most of the time it was fine (though I carried a wide angle for the odd shot that needed it). I now us it on a full frame camera and it's even better, I can do full shots (a full wedding) with just this one lens. I did try a 17-35 L a while back and it was quite poor, the 17-40 f4 was significantly better.


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