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Aug 19, 2009 03:23 |  #2131

Hi all,

alienbees.com seem to be down at the moment and I have a question regarding the Foldable Giant Softbox (30"x60") if anyone has one. Mine seems to hang rather low off my B1600 and it falls off fairly easily if i'm attempting to rotate it or theres a slight bit of wind. Is this just because it's so large/heavy? or are the pins on the B1600 bent and not holding the speedring properly / some other reason?

The gap is so large that light escapes out the back as well.

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Larger view, you can see how I have to angle it slightly up to get the softbox straight

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Aug 19, 2009 03:56 |  #2132

xelfer, my 30x60 softbox does kind of the same thing, but there is not that big of a gap, but a small gap none the less


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Aug 19, 2009 04:12 |  #2133

ohheycheckmeout wrote in post #8485224 (external link)
xelfer, my 30x60 softbox does kind of the same thing, but there is not that big of a gap, but a small gap none the less

thanks, I might email paulcbuff them and see what they say. :)


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Aug 19, 2009 13:02 |  #2134

I just bought a 1600 .. will tell you if I have the same problem once it arrives




  
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Aug 19, 2009 13:26 |  #2135

the heavy thick black borders are very annoying. I first thought you shot above the shutter sync speed. (viewed it on my iPhone)

phamster wrote in post #8484601 (external link)
Gonzo.. my friend.

those are all good points.. this shoot went like this.

the threating clouds were there.. mother was all about getting shots done.. she was on vacation this week and was leaving today some where so we had no choice but to shoot it in 30 mins..

so i put my lights up and went about my chimping - after 4 shots..i had a balance i liked and i showed her.. she loved it.. so really i didn't even think about the vamp vs.. family aspect..

dark clouds dictated us to go a head..

in the end i received a text from her saying she was thrilled to all get out - after i emailed her the proofs..

but i do understand your points.. if i had just a little more time i would have put my 15 inch soft boxes on and went softer.. time was just not on my side nor hers..

here is another shoot - i did these tonight..

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Aug 19, 2009 13:30 |  #2136

xelfer wrote in post #8485161 (external link)
Hi all,

alienbees.com seem to be down at the moment and I have a question regarding the Foldable Giant Softbox (30"x60") if anyone has one. Mine seems to hang rather low off my B1600 and it falls off fairly easily if i'm attempting to rotate it or theres a slight bit of wind. Is this just because it's so large/heavy? or are the pins on the B1600 bent and not holding the speedring properly / some other reason?

The gap is so large that light escapes out the back as well.

QUOTED IMAGE

Larger view, you can see how I have to angle it slightly up to get the softbox straight

QUOTED IMAGE

Thanks!

I have two AB1600 with a large foldable softboxes and mine doesn't do that.

Check and make sure the four clips on the AB1600 are all clipped in the speedring properly. Based on the pic, it looks like one of the top clip may not have been secured in the speedring properly.


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Aug 19, 2009 13:47 |  #2137

phamster wrote in post #8484601 (external link)
Gonzo.. my friend.

those are all good points.. this shoot went like this.

the threating clouds were there.. mother was all about getting shots done.. she was on vacation this week and was leaving today some where so we had no choice but to shoot it in 30 mins..

so i put my lights up and went about my chimping - after 4 shots..i had a balance i liked and i showed her.. she loved it.. so really i didn't even think about the vamp vs.. family aspect..

dark clouds dictated us to go a head..

in the end i received a text from her saying she was thrilled to all get out - after i emailed her the proofs..

but i do understand your points.. if i had just a little more time i would have put my 15 inch soft boxes on and went softer.. time was just not on my side nor hers..

here is another shoot - i did these tonight..

Phamster,
These latest ones are fantastic. The perfect amount of separation from the background. Its the kind of light where you know its there, but you dont notice it.




  
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Aug 19, 2009 15:45 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #2138

I shot these a few months back, and it was my first outing with the AB800 so these shots are just me experimenting with them. I just got into strobes so I am a newbie for sure in this area.

I do need to take care of the shadows under the arms and behind the body in the first shot, but I guess I can't do much about it with one strobe.


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Aug 19, 2009 15:56 |  #2139

David S wrote in post #8488441 (external link)
I shot these a few months back, and it was my first outing with the AB800 so these shots are just me experimenting with them. I just got into strobes so I am a newbie for sure in this area.

I do need to take care of the shadows under the arms and behind the body in the first shot, but I guess I can't do much about it with one strobe.


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Nice balance with the sunset in the first shot. I wish the crop wasnt so tight on the sides. Nice work.




  
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Aug 19, 2009 17:31 |  #2140

My Giant Foldable Softbox never has that much gap on any of my B800's and typically sits fairly tight even if I angle it down.

mchong75 wrote in post #8487743 (external link)
Check and make sure the four clips on the AB1600 are all clipped in the speedring properly. Based on the pic, it looks like one of the lower clip may not have been secured in the speedring properly.

I missed a clip once.


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Aug 19, 2009 19:23 |  #2141

mchong75 wrote in post #8487743 (external link)
I have two AB1600 with a large foldable softboxes and mine doesn't do that.

Check and make sure the four clips on the AB1600 are all clipped in the speedring properly. Based on the pic, it looks like one of the top clip may not have been secured in the speedring properly.

I've missed the clip once before, but all 4 are definitely in. I think my clips are slightly bent. I'll try the softbox on my brothers 3 bees and see how big the gap is there.

Thanks all for your suggestions.


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Aug 19, 2009 21:30 |  #2142

mchong75 wrote in post #8487743 (external link)
Check and make sure the four clips on the AB1600 are all clipped in the speedring properly. Based on the pic, it looks like one of the top clip may not have been secured in the speedring properly.

That's what I was thinking. I don't have a softbox, but on my beauty dish, it's SOLID as a rock :)


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Aug 19, 2009 21:43 |  #2143

Comparing with my brothers, the pins seem to be slightly bent. I've bent them back a bit and the gap has halved. Hopefully this solution is good enough, will test drive at this weekends wedding to see how it performs.


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Aug 19, 2009 21:46 as a reply to  @ Kyle is raaddd's post |  #2144

i didn't realize that giant softbox is so huge :shock:
could you guys post some pics of your softboxes and octaboxes
i'm looking to buy some and i cant find some better pics on AB website (medium.large and giant)


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Aug 20, 2009 00:10 |  #2145

Bolidas,
Not sure if you have been following this other thread, but I have a shot of the 'giant softbox" ( 30"x60" ) standing next to the PLM86.
.....see post 270 on this page:
https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=6998​57&page=18


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