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keeping 70-200 non IS in focus @ 200mm

 
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Aug 21, 2009 12:32 |  #1

for those who has non IS 70-200:
how challenging is it to shoot sharp @ 200mm indoor?
let's say ISO1000, F2.8, 1/50

I shoot indoor 30% of the time, so I need 2.8. But I don't want to pay $500-800 extra for IS.


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Aug 21, 2009 12:43 |  #2

ICBuyer wrote in post #8499731 (external link)
for those who has non IS 70-200:
how challenging is it to shoot sharp @ 200mm indoor?
let's say ISO1000, F2.8, 1/50

I shoot indoor 30% of the time, so I need 2.8. But I don't want to pay $500-800 extra for IS.

Can you use a monopod? If you can, that will help a great deal.


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Aug 21, 2009 12:46 |  #3

Are you asking about 1/50 handheld on a 40D? If so, it would be impossible.

With an IS version it would still be difficult, and your subjects would have to remain still as well.


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Aug 21, 2009 12:46 as a reply to  @ nhbeast's post |  #4

Hand held would be very difficult. I'm sure there are those that can, but I can't. The monopod would help a lot.


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Aug 21, 2009 12:48 |  #5

What are you shooting indoors? 200mm is pretty long inside a house.


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Aug 21, 2009 12:49 |  #6

1/50 at 200x1.6? With pratice you might expect 13% keepers. But at 1/50 your subject probably moved anyway.


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Aug 21, 2009 12:49 |  #7

i just tried it with my 70-300mm and i would've never thought i had a chance(i don't think my technique is that good)...however i was surprised that there were some good shots...however it's not the same weight as the 70-200mm 2.8...in either case i'd probably bump up your ISO

and you never mentioned pictures of people, but if that's the case their motion would probably kill it


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Aug 21, 2009 12:57 |  #8

I guess I don't have much chance....
BTW, yes my subjects include people...


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Aug 21, 2009 15:10 |  #9

Kill the ambient and you flash. Then 1/50 shouldn't be any problem.


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Aug 21, 2009 16:44 |  #10

I doubt 1/50 and flash are a good combo.


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Aug 22, 2009 11:02 |  #11

gasrocks wrote in post #8500936 (external link)
I doubt 1/50 and flash are a good combo.

Well I was just saying that is one of the ways to get sharp pictures unless you shooting stationary objects. Like in studio situations where ss doesn't matter.

Don't know what OP shoots where he needs 1/50 at f2.8 and ISO1000. I would bump ISO to 1600 or even 3200 to get higher ss. And I would still prefer an IS lens.


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Aug 22, 2009 13:04 |  #12

I sold my 70-200 f/2.8, but took these indoors with a 200L f/2.8 and no tripod/monopod.

1/50s f/2.8 at 200.0mm iso800

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/112271434.jpg

1/80s f/2.8 at 200.0mm iso640
IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/90245323.jpg

1/100s f/2.8 at 200.0mm iso640
IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/90282306.jpg

This one was taken with a flash
1/250s f/2.8 at 200.0mm iso500
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Aug 22, 2009 15:13 |  #13

200mm x 1.6 (crop factor) = an effective 320mm. You'll probably need something around 1/300 to get consistently good pics.


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Aug 22, 2009 20:46 |  #14

It's hard.


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Aug 23, 2009 00:11 |  #15

bob_r, these are pretty steady shots.

I'm still between 2.8 non IS and 4 IS...


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