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IQ of 1DS2 over 1D2 & 1D2N

 
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Aug 28, 2009 12:43 |  #1

I've been working with the 1D2 & 1D2N for about 3 years now & as the majority of my work has been press these have been more than ideal. However, I am moving more into social & portraiture work now where fps is not so important, but IQ definitely is. What I have got out of these bodies in this area has been good, but I can see room for improvement.

I have the chance to get a mint 2nd hand 1DS2 & my question is is the difference in IQ worth it?

I could go for a 2nd hand 5D for half the price, but I much prefer the build of the 1D as I'm so used to it. Plus as I always have 2 bodies, they get bashed about quite a bit.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated

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Aug 28, 2009 13:33 |  #2

It's probably going to come down to how large you are going to print. I have both the 1DII and 1DsII and I would give the Ds an edge in IQ but it isn't earth shattering. Of course the larger you print, the larger the advantage becomes. The Ds does give you a lot of flexibility when cropping. All said, unless I absolutely need 8fps I reach for the Ds every time.



  
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Aug 28, 2009 13:40 |  #3

I have a 5D and a recently acquired 1Ds2. Hard to tell, still, which I like better. But, the 1Ds2 can go out in inclement weather, which in Florida means it'll hold up much better. :) Love the 5D though, so, it's a hard sell to sell it...I've owned it for so long.

Sorry, I'm sure I haven't helped your situation, but, check the 1Ds2 thread, for pictures. I know they are only web-sized, but, still gives you an idea.


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Aug 28, 2009 13:49 |  #4

You can check my flickr for a lot of original size files of portraits with the 1ds2. Just click a picture then all sizes - original.

www.flickr.com/photos/​teddysmith (external link)

I can email you a raw of a few if you want to see more to help you make up your mind.


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Aug 28, 2009 14:40 |  #5

Thanks for the replies everyone,

aroundlsu wrote in post #8539578 (external link)
You can check my flickr for a lot of original size files of portraits with the 1ds2. Just click a picture then all sizes - original.

www.flickr.com/photos/​teddysmith (external link)

I can email you a raw of a few if you want to see more to help you make up your mind.

That'd be great thanks. I had a look at your site & some really good portraits on there.

I've been looking at the 1DS2 thread & again some great shots on there. If the difference in IQ isn't amazing between the 2 types of bodies, I'm beginning to get slightly worried as my shots on both bodies don't tend to be as sharp as those of the 1DS2 shots I'm seeing.

I'm using decent lenses, 28-70, 70-200 (2.8 IS version), 17-40 & 300 (again 2.8 IS) so I can't say that it's down to the lens quality. Could well be me of course.

If anyone has a minute, have a look at my site, more or less everything on there is taken with these 2 bodies, & see if you agree.

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Aug 28, 2009 14:57 as a reply to  @ petegettins's post |  #6

I looked at your site. Without full resolution samples it is difficult to make a diagnoses. It would be helpful to post a link to one or two full resolution shots that you feel are not as sharp as you would hope for.


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Aug 28, 2009 15:57 |  #7

aroundlsu wrote in post #8539996 (external link)
I looked at your site. Without full resolution samples it is difficult to make a diagnoses. It would be helpful to post a link to one or two full resolution shots that you feel are not as sharp as you would hope for.

Thanks for looking, here's one from a job the other day.

http://www.flickr.com …s/9863165@N07/3​865186835/ (external link)

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Aug 28, 2009 16:27 as a reply to  @ petegettins's post |  #8

The largest resolution available on that photo is 1024x688. I can't judge the sharpness at that resolution.


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Aug 28, 2009 16:51 |  #9

aroundlsu wrote in post #8540494 (external link)
The largest resolution available on that photo is 1024x688. I can't judge the sharpness at that resolution.

I don't have a pro account at flickr so that's as big as it gets. Thanks for looking anyway.




  
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Aug 28, 2009 19:15 |  #10

Here is the best I can come up with as far as similar shots from each camera under real world conditions. Both from my 400mm f/5.6 L. The 1DsII was slightly closer to the nest for it's shot. The Ds shot is more recent and I haven't really spent any time processing it other than some gross color adjustment. The 1DII shot has had a bit more intensive PP to get the colors right. Neither image has been sharpened in post.

1DII - full image resized for web (ISO 200, f/11, 1/250)

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1DsII - full image resized for web (ISO 400, f/11, 1/60)
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1DII - 100% crop
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1DsII - 100% crop
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The parents head was just ever so slightly getting back out of my DoF on the 1DII shot so don't hold the bit of softness there against the camera.

Both cameras are capable of some really great images. The 1DsII has incredible cropping power. If you frame a shot the same on each you will of course get more detail from the 1DsII, but you will have to print large to see it.


  
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Aug 28, 2009 22:17 |  #11

^^Nice work. Very nice. ;)


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