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Sep 01, 2009 18:01 |  #2176

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that's a pretty sick deal. considering 1ds classics sell for around $1000 on ebay, i'm shocked that you could sell it for nearly twice as much over there. is there any rhyme or reason to this?

1Ds3 costs $12,000-$14,000 just for you to have an idea... it's import duty which causes the high prices. You guys should take a vacation here and drop it off for me to sell for you... I'll take a $1,000 cut and you keep the rest :cool:


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Sep 01, 2009 19:40 |  #2177

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I keep waiting for the 1dsMkII's to hit around $1,800.00. This is the point at which I will consider them... Right now a 5D looks tempting, but I really want the weather sealing and build quality of the 1D series. So for now I'll just admire your guy's FF stuff.

It's possible to get that now, just takes some patience and watching ebay like a hawk. I got mine in July for $1840 after Cashback, and that was for a near mint camera with under 8k on the shutter, all accessories, and an extra Canon battery. :D



  
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Sep 01, 2009 19:58 |  #2178

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Believe me, it will be sooner or later next year or maybe at the end of this year, they will announce about it in no time ;)
But if it is under 30mp i am not gonna buy it, but if it is say 31mp and say about 8 or 10fps and ISO up to 6400 i may think about it, 7D is coming with 18mp and 8fps, so they should make that 1Ds mkIV [or 1D mkIV] higher in something over 7D [mp, fps maybe, ISO, .....].

Doubt the 1Ds4 will be an 30+MP 8fps camera. Canon has never made fps "the" issue for the 1Ds series. The new 1D4 will probably top 10 fps @ 16-18MP. If the new 1Ds4 is 30+MP, I'm guessing it'll be around between 5-7fps.

What I'd rather have on the future 1Ds4 would be: an AMOLED screen; dedicated/programmable mirror lock-up button; AF points spread out towards the rule of thirds intersections; cross-type f2.8 extra sensitive on all AF points (not just the center cluster); ability to AF at f8 on ALL focus points; 18-20 RAW shot buffer; 6fps at around 30MP; with mRAW at half MP, and sRAW at quarter MP. I'm finding all the current 17MP 1DsII not really critical since few photos ever get printed in poster sizes. The 1Ds2 RAW files as is takes up too much space; let alone what a 30MP 14-bit file size would be <gulp>.

And wouldn't it be cool to have the 7D auto-orientation AF point selection and built-in Speedlite Commander? :cool: Oh yeah--I could care less if they excluded the video feature.


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Sep 01, 2009 20:56 |  #2179

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Doubt the 1Ds4 will be an 30+MP 8fps camera. Canon has never made fps "the" issue for the 1Ds series. The new 1D4 will probably top 10 fps @ 16-18MP. If the new 1Ds4 is 30+MP, I'm guessing it'll be around between 5-7fps.

What I'd rather have on the future 1Ds4 would be: an AMOLED screen; dedicated/programmable mirror lock-up button; AF points spread out towards the rule of thirds intersections; cross-type f2.8 extra sensitive on all AF points (not just the center cluster); ability to AF at f8 on ALL focus points; 18-20 RAW shot buffer; 6fps at around 30MP; with mRAW at half MP, and sRAW at quarter MP. I'm finding all the current 17MP 1DsII not really critical since few photos ever get printed in poster sizes. The 1Ds2 RAW files as is takes up too much space; let alone what a 30MP 14-bit file size would be <gulp>.

And wouldn't it be cool to have the 7D auto-orientation AF point selection and built-in Speedlite Commander? :cool: Oh yeah--I could care less if they excluded the video feature.

That sounds like a very cool feature set on your wish list!

I think I would want a substantial improvement to the sensor itself. Something that would have enough dynamic light range that it could eliminate to the need for HDR photography all together. The whole HDR process is tedious and too time consuming to really make it much more then a novelty process as so many people who use it, use it poorly. This would be a substantial picture quality improvement! Fancy screen technologies and more/differently spaced out AF points wont really do that. And as far as the flash transmitter thing; if its not a dual IR/RF system, it will still be limiting to many lighting setups where the IR doesn't work.

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Sep 01, 2009 22:43 as a reply to  @ The Ghost of FM's post |  #2180

I agree ghost. IMO expanding the dynamic range should be the top priority in any new 1 series. Sensor technology appears to have taken a back seat to higher MP and faster processors.

Viva la Revolution!! :cool:

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Sep 02, 2009 03:36 |  #2181

Actually, I don't think HDR is that difficult--especially with Photomatix Pro, a tripod, and bracketed RAW exposures. The only reason we even need HDR is because we're trying to compress dynamic range to fit within the output/display. Even if you could capture 16-stops in one exposure, one would still be limited with reproducing it. In essence, the dynamic range would have to be compressed again for display! Grad filters are actually an analog method for compressing DR--something that is easily done today in digital.

Not that I'm against improved sensors. I just think we're at the point that sensor tech advancement will be much slower because we're reaching physical constraints (lens resolution, manufacturing tolerance, et al) and the properties of light itself. I think there's way more that can be done with the AF system though. Good face detection for instance, is quite a neat trick! And whatever happened to eye-controlled focus? It worked well for me on the EOS 5/A2E.

Ultimately, I think the increased photo-site density (increased MP) will be more useful when combined with the ability to pixel-bin. This could result in markedly better noise performance and color accuracy at higher ISO. It would be neat if the 1D4 series would pixel bin for mRAW and sRAW, but I suspect research into that area is still in it's infancy. Who knows--Canon might surprise everyone.

There are but a handful of sports shots that could benefit from a 30+MP camera, but the majority would benefit from higher shutter speeds and better noise performance. Landscapes and architecture on the other hand would benefit greatly--I just spent a good admiring the work of Rodney Lough Jr. (external link) in one of his galleries in S.F. He uses an 8x10 film camera, and the gigantic prints show no grain at all. And the colors and resolution are stunning! Everytime he clicks the shutter, it's about US$50.

As for the IR flash control, I have actually used an ST-E2 for several years successfully outdoors in full sun. People assume because it's IR, it's terrible, but in practice, it works fairly well. It works fantastically well indoors. Obviously the RF PocketWizards have better range and doesn't require aiming the IR window.

I also much prefer the handy IR remote shutter release on the Rebel series (and the 7D) than having to plugin another corded trigger, but I'm not sure Canon will include that consumer feature on the 1D series.


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Sep 02, 2009 03:44 |  #2182

Some shots from the Portland International Test Rose Garden (over 1,000 varieties of roses there!):

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Sep 02, 2009 04:46 |  #2183

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Time for more pictures and Photo-shopping fun!

Here's the before...

And the after!


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Did a bit of cropping, perspective correction, cloning out the power lines and traffic cones, played with the levels and colors and added a slight vignette effect.

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Sep 02, 2009 21:59 |  #2184

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Very nice!!

Thanks!

I know its still summer but I was digging through some of my winter shots from January of this year and found a good candidate to rework in CS4!


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Sep 03, 2009 10:40 as a reply to  @ The Ghost of FM's post |  #2185

And a few more from the same series...


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Sep 03, 2009 11:47 |  #2186

^ Love that last one, Jeff... Very nice!!!

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Sep 03, 2009 12:02 |  #2187

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^ Love that last one, Jeff... Very nice!!!

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Me too!! this is not now is it???

edit: I need to remember to read the posts as well - not just look at the images....


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Sep 03, 2009 12:23 as a reply to  @ zincozinco's post |  #2188

Thanks guys! ;)

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Sep 03, 2009 20:07 |  #2189

Nice shots, Jeff. I don't miss the snow, in the winter, as much as I thought I might. ;)

Nice ones M3, I like the second one best. :)


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Sep 03, 2009 23:51 |  #2190

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Nice shots, Jeff. I don't miss the snow, in the winter, as much as I thought I might. ;)

Nice ones M3, I like the second one best. :)

Thanks!

I really like having all 4 seasons to shot with! Adds to the variety of possibilities! And having the 1DsMkII means the weather is never a problem! ;)

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I've got one more that I've been working this evening, this time from the spring of this year and put a lot of work into carefully cloning out the power lines and replacing the sky. This one taken with my 24L...


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