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Is the 7D actually a 60D?

 
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Sep 02, 2009 01:02 |  #1
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Is it a marketing ploy? What makes a XD camera an XD camera? I always thought the XD series is full frame. What would be the specs on a 60D camera?


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Sep 02, 2009 01:10 |  #2

The 7D is above the xxD series and below the 1-series. It's still an APS-C body, whereas the 1D is APS-H, or 1.3x crop, while the 1Ds is full frame. Because it's above the xxD's but below the 1-series, it's the same as the 5D in that it has added features but lacks others. Improved AF and faster FPS are two that put it above the xxD. For the 5D equivalent (being FF), it's the lack of improved AF and faster FPS that put it below the 1Ds line.

It's not a 60D but who knows what the 60D will have. Personally I don't think it's worth Canon releasing a 60D for another year or year and a half to let the 7D settle into place.




  
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The Moose wrote in post #8567148 (external link)
The 7D is above the xxD series and below the 1-series. It's still an APS-C body, whereas the 1D is APS-H, or 1.3x crop, while the 1Ds is full frame. Because it's above the xxD's but below the 1-series, it's the same as the 5D in that it has added features but lacks others. Improved AF and faster FPS are two that put it above the xxD. For the 5D equivalent (being FF), it's the lack of improved AF and faster FPS that put it below the 1Ds line.

It's not a 60D but who knows what the 60D will have. Personally I don't think it's worth Canon releasing a 60D for another year or year and a half to let the 7D settle into place.

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The Moose wrote in post #8567148 (external link)
The 7D is above the xxD series and below the 1-series. It's still an APS-C body, whereas the 1D is APS-H, or 1.3x crop, while the 1Ds is full frame. Because it's above the xxD's but below the 1-series, it's the same as the 5D in that it has added features but lacks others. Improved AF and faster FPS are two that put it above the xxD. For the 5D equivalent (being FF), it's the lack of improved AF and faster FPS that put it below the 1Ds line.

It's not a 60D but who knows what the 60D will have. Personally I don't think it's worth Canon releasing a 60D for another year or year and a half to let the 7D settle into place.

Seconded..

Basically, the 60D is going to settle down and go more against the D90 instead of being an in between product trying to fight the value of the D90 and the professional features of the D300...

A lot of amateur photographers who are serious will skip right up to the D90 level easily, but irking out that extra $300-400 for a 50D is hard...Especially with the 50D's crappy kit lens of the 28-135...Considering no previous lens investment, the T1i and 50D are a hard sell against the D90..the D90 has a lot of good sensible features for little extra investment and the 50D offers little above it..

the 7D is now fighting the D300s, and even though its only now stepping into the ring, Its got some fight in it, The D300s is fighting with 2 year old technology..and the 7D is state of the art...Its a good even match

So now the 50D can slide down and go against the D90 more..I think the 18-135 lens is specifically designed to help do this...[The D90 kit of the D90+18-135 is a good kit to be honest, the 18-135 Nikkor is actually a surprisingly good lens]


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Sep 02, 2009 05:55 |  #5

The 7D fills, what was, a caping chasm between the xxD range and the 1D range - for people who like crop sensors. Like, I'm sure, a lot of other people, I was annoyed that I had to splash out so much cash to upgrade from the xxD range. I'm hoping that the 7D will provide much of what I wanted from the 1D (especially improved AF) for a lot less dosh.


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Sep 02, 2009 06:53 as a reply to  @ hollis_f's post |  #6

Read this and you'll have the official Canon answer < click the link




  
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Sep 02, 2009 07:14 |  #7

pastanley wrote in post #8567113 (external link)
Is it a marketing ploy? What makes a XD camera an XD camera? I always thought the XD series is full frame. What would be the specs on a 60D camera?


I think you are right. It is a 60D, I'd be more comfortable thinking of it like this too.

But I also think of it as the professional end of the 1.6x cameras and it leaves room for the SAME camera with a 1.3x to be marketed as the 3D ~~ perhaps




  
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Sep 02, 2009 07:17 |  #8

KenjiS wrote in post #8567339 (external link)
Seconded.. the 7D is now fighting the D300s, Its got some fight in it, The D300s is fighting with 2 year old technology..and the 7D is state of the art...Its a good even match]

That's SO SAD! Boy talk about mixing metaphors, Canon's "State Of the Art" is only an "even Match" with two year old technology? :cry:




  
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Sep 02, 2009 07:28 |  #9

I think the marketing gurus of Canon wanted a camera class to compete with Nikon as many other above have mentioned so, NO I don't think the 7D is actually a 60D but makes me wonder what will the 60D be?


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Sep 02, 2009 08:03 |  #10

The 7D to me doesn't give Canon many options for what the 60D could contain. In my own humble opinion the only option Canon has is to lose the view for the 60D and maybe the 100% view. But that doesn't seem like a smart or marketable idea considering the direction that DSLR's seem to be heading.


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Xti is coming back, gonna replace the 60D. Canons first FULL-FRAMED REBEL.


Good question though, +1 what Igunnz said =)




  
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Sep 02, 2009 08:13 |  #12

merp wrote in post #8568503 (external link)
Xti is coming back, gonna replace the 60D. Canons first FULL-FRAMED REBEL.

LOL bw!


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Sep 02, 2009 08:16 |  #13

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Sep 02, 2009 08:27 |  #14

pastanley wrote in post #8567113 (external link)
Is it a marketing ploy? What makes a XD camera an XD camera? I always thought the XD series is full frame.

And what about the 1D, 1DMKII, MKIIN and MKIII?

Given that the original 1D, with its 1.3x sensor was released a year before the 1Ds, your argument should be that the "xD" series is 1.3x, but it's not and Canon never stated that it was.

An "xD" camera is whatever Canon wants it to be with the 1 series being reserved for Professional bodies with whatever sensor they see fit to use.


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Sep 02, 2009 09:45 |  #15

KenjiS wrote in post #8567339 (external link)
So now the 50D can slide down and go against the D90 more..I think the 18-135 lens is specifically designed to help do this...[The D90 kit of the D90+18-135 is a good kit to be honest, the 18-135 Nikkor is actually a surprisingly good lens]

I think the D90 comes with the 18-55 or 18-105VR not the 18-135.


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