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How come non pro bodies don't have built in grips?

 
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Sep 04, 2009 07:17 |  #16

Production simplicity.
I can say for certain that my next body will have a grip - be it an add on or built in. One of the things I most miss from my EOS-1 film camera are the vertical controls. Once you use them there is no going back.


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Sep 04, 2009 08:02 |  #17

Shadowblade wrote in post #8581549 (external link)
Why do Canon's only pro bodies have inbuilt grips?

Easy enough to add a grip if you like one. You can't remove one that's permanently attached.

At the moment, us travel photographers have to either put up with the useless bulk and weight of a grip, or put up with inferior AF and lack of weather-sealing. Or shoot Nikon...

Or get a 7D :)


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Sep 04, 2009 08:25 as a reply to  @ KenjiS's post |  #18

some of us prefer non gripped, smaller, lighter bodies maybe?
also, don't turn one horror thread about a grip that was overthightend into a rule. That doesn't happen very often. PotN by no means represents canon's average user...


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Sep 04, 2009 09:14 |  #19

Never used a motor drive on my Nikon F either....


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Sep 04, 2009 09:19 |  #20

I bet needing a better battery also would have something to do with it.


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Sep 04, 2009 09:50 |  #21
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NeoTokyo wrote in post #8581063 (external link)
Never had one on my XTi or 40D and never cared to, I liked them smaller like that.
The only one that I may ever think of buying one for is the 5DII.

Though I wouldnt have it any other way with my 1DIII... Go figure :D


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Sep 04, 2009 09:51 |  #22

KenjiS wrote in post #8582146 (external link)
Or get a 7D :)

Doesn't work if you're after full-frame detail, DOF control and high ISO capability...

Also, with similar weather sealing to 5D2 (maybe a bit better), that's hardly a pro body.




  
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Sep 04, 2009 10:11 |  #23

Shadowblade wrote in post #8582744 (external link)
Doesn't work if you're after full-frame detail, DOF control and high ISO capability...

Also, with similar weather sealing to 5D2 (maybe a bit better), that's hardly a pro body.

See the 5D2 is sealed better than my 30D and i've never had an issue with my 30D breaking down...

I really dont get why people with 5D2s have problems...


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Sep 04, 2009 10:28 |  #24

While the cost is not an issue for me, the bulk and weight of grips has kept me in the other camp. But I realize that not everyone has 60 years of piano playing experience which gave me very flexible wrists, and fingers that can manipulate smaller objects with ease (I've seen some pretty ham-fisted photographers that NEED a grip).

If Canon starts putting grips on everything, I'll buy something else.


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Sep 04, 2009 11:10 |  #25

KenjiS wrote in post #8582859 (external link)
See the 5D2 is sealed better than my 30D and i've never had an issue with my 30D breaking down...

I really dont get why people with 5D2s have problems...

In order to take advantage of sealed lenses, you also need a sealed body.

The 5D2 (and 30D, and almost every half-decent camera out there) can take occasional use in adverse conditions, but I'd like a compact body which can take abuse similar to that of a 1-series or Nikon D3/D700 - weeks of travel through dust, sand and snow, 100% humidity, temperatures -30 to +50 Celcius, torrential rain, heavy sweat, etc.




  
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Sep 04, 2009 11:25 |  #26

Shadowblade wrote in post #8583274 (external link)
In order to take advantage of sealed lenses, you also need a sealed body.

The 5D2 (and 30D, and almost every half-decent camera out there) can take occasional use in adverse conditions, but I'd like a compact body which can take abuse similar to that of a 1-series or Nikon D3/D700 - weeks of travel through dust, sand and snow, 100% humidity, temperatures -30 to +50 Celcius, torrential rain, heavy sweat, etc.

I've used my 30D in below zero farenheit conditions [10-15 degrees] snowstorms, blizzards, spent an hour and a half in a torrential downpour [my hand couldnt grip the grip anymore, it was SOAKED] oh and i fell FACE FIRST into a snowbank wherein my 30D looked like THIS:

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Now, i dont have sand or saltwater testing...but still..

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Sep 04, 2009 11:28 |  #27

Omaru wrote in post #8581144 (external link)
Production costs. But I'd prefer to have a grip on my future DSLRs. I just don't feel comfortable holding the camera when I'm shooting vertical without the grip. It feels awkward.

I know I'm weird, and so do most others around here, but I won't own any camera without an integral vertical grip. I just like the look and feel, yet I don't usually use the buttons on the vertical grip. When I turn the camera, I just twist my wrist and use the regular controls. Go figure.

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Sep 04, 2009 11:29 |  #28

KenjiS wrote in post #8583352 (external link)
I've used my 30D in below zero farenheit conditions [10-15 degrees] snowstorms, blizzards, spent an hour and a half in a torrential downpour [my hand couldnt grip the grip anymore, it was SOAKED] oh and i fell FACE FIRST into a snowbank wherein my 30D looked like THIS:

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Now, i dont have sand or saltwater testing...but still..

Memo to self: Do not buy Kenji's used stuff. ;)

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Sep 04, 2009 11:37 |  #29

MDJAK wrote in post #8583379 (external link)
Memo to self: Do not buy Kenji's used stuff. ;)

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Lol..

Maybe my 30D is invincible...

Actually you know, its been through all that and it looks better than most of the other 30Ds i see for sale, in fact it still looks new..

I do actually take care of my stuff :) No shutter release failures for me either and i've put about 15,000 actuations on her


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Sep 04, 2009 11:38 |  #30

KenjiS wrote in post #8583352 (external link)
I've used my 30D in below zero farenheit conditions [10-15 degrees] snowstorms, blizzards, spent an hour and a half in a torrential downpour [my hand couldnt grip the grip anymore, it was SOAKED] oh and i fell FACE FIRST into a snowbank wherein my 30D looked like THIS:

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Now, i dont have sand or saltwater testing...but still..

Would you be confident in repeating that kind of abuse again and again, for weeks on end?

Personally, I'd be much more comfortable knowing that my camera's weather sealing was the best out there and knowing that anything that killed my camera would probably have killed anything else on the market...




  
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