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Sep 03, 2009 09:49 |  #61

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yea, that's what i've been trying to say. the 7d isn't what people wanted from the hypothetical 3d,...

Well, here I do disagree, as it simply depends on what people we are talking about.
Be Aware that the "3D" name was fist rumored about in 2004,. and for most of it's hypothetical dreamlike existence, it was rumored to be Exactly what the 7D turned out to be.

ie: an affordable CROP sensor body with 1 series features like FPS, AF and Weather sealing.

Tomes do change, but It's only in the last few years that the recurring dreams of the 3D have included on occasion the additional desire for FF,... though mostly it was still emphasis on affordable with pro features, the compromise, the thing that makes it affordable as opposed to 1Ds was to be sensor size.


Either way., I'm pretty sure the 7D is going to start a trend for Canon to add more of the high end festures into the more affordable bodies,. they have to to compete witht eh Nikon offerings, and now with there own 7D.

5D MkII is an awesome camera, but to pay twice as much for significantly reduced features than this new 7D? IMHO, 5D MkIII or some form of feature rich FF will be needed soon.


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Sep 03, 2009 13:07 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #62

If the images from the 7d are jut as nice as the 5d's I don't see why people will go to full frame when they can get the same quality from. hmmm.


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Sep 05, 2009 15:45 |  #63

2004ep3hatch wrote in post #8577210 (external link)
If the images from the 7d are jut as nice as the 5d's I don't see why people will go to full frame when they can get the same quality from. hmmm.

Good thought. Undoubtedly 7D promises to be a hit but at present the problem of EF-S is the shortage of "L" class lenses. The output of crop cameras far outweighs this class lens which Canon has recognized and begun to put right with classy type new 15-85mm zoom, although not an "L"

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Sep 05, 2009 16:26 |  #64

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I've been waiting a long time for a $15,000 Mercedes and a $300 Rolex. Darned rip-off companies.

ROFLMAO !!!

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Think about it, guys - Canon is selling you a 1.6x Rebel for $899.

And yet, (some) people expect that Canon will somehow pair this offer with a $1600 FF - preferably with better AF, frame rate, and weather sealing than the 5DII. ???




  
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Sep 05, 2009 20:06 as a reply to  @ jorkata's post |  #65

The popularity of the 5D at its age is a reason to have a new, "budget FF" option (if possible) as it shows the demand.

Just the opposite. As a professional photographer (or anyone in sales), I already know the rule is, "If you have more business than you can handle, raise your prices."

The 5D2 is a budget 24x36mm. Look at the camera's construction--the only "premium" thing about it is the size of the sensor. Everything else is strictly consumer level. There isn't anything else that can be made any cheaper than an xxD camera.

Sorry, but thinking that leaving xxD tech out of the 5D2 would make it cheaper is a fantasy. They would have to make it a 24x36mm Rebel...but a 24x36mm sensor can't be made cheap enough for people to buy it in a Rebel body. That would be like trying to sell a Ford Focus with leather seats.

How much could Canon build the 5D for now? The technology in it is pretty mature. If they could build and sell the 5D for $1,400-1,600 now it may sell well again. What do you guys think? I had one, it had everything that a DSLR really needs for most people.


That would be like telling Toyota that re-releasing last decade's auto would be a big hit. The problem with that though is every generation designed for more efficient assembly than the last generation. Last decade's auto costs too much to be built today.

Canon has said the same thing about their camera design. They say the reason they can offer more for less each model is because each successive model is designed for more efficient assembly. The 5D1 undoubtedly costs more to build than the 5D2--so they'd probably have to charge just as much for it as they charge for the 5D2.

Moreover, they don't keep discreet assembly lines for each product. To continue with the 5D1, they would have to have separate lines for a whole host of components unique to that camera that are common across lines today.

"Let's release a new camera exactly like the old camera." Jeez, the online pundits would declare that Canon had completely run out of new ideas. The forums would go off like pop bottle rockets. Stockholders would jump ship.


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While marketing would make the 3D a bit silly, I could see Canon releasing something in the realm of what it would be. Possibly a 6D?


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Sep 08, 2009 11:13 as a reply to  @ Scampo's post |  #67

allthough i would love to see a ff-rebel next year, it's obvious that this will remain a whish within the next 10 years.

as stated above, the poor-mans FF-body is on the second-hand markt. buy a used one


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Sep 08, 2009 15:38 |  #68

The used market on the 5d classic is incredible. $1000 - $1200 for a great camera? I've got more than enough to learn - it's not the equipment standing in the way of good photos. Good photos are more than the equipment.


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Sep 09, 2009 08:18 |  #69

Question:
Come on Canon make Full Frame EOS at an Affordable price
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Sure if Canon don't filled the new version with many megapixels, and confined itself to improving substantially the AF, would be a killer product.
They could launch a similar product even for 1500 dollar as initial price.
The choice was different and the result was 2000 dollar as initial price.

On a FF the megapixel on Canon 5d mark ii aren't too many, but add high density on a sensor is a lot expensive and also each time require improve algorithm on the firmware for better manage the residual noise and better quality lenses to retain the detail.

While if they remain on the precedence resolution they could put a wonderful AF, avoid
project costs for the sensor, using better electronic components (always more powerful and even less expensive), so they could sell a "cheap" FF.




  
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