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Sep 08, 2009 14:57 |  #1

I have recieved many comments from various people on this image and I always wondered what other photographers with more skilled eyes would say about it.
This is a photo from when I first started shooting and still had my rebel. All C&C is very welcome.

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A lot of people asked if I set this shot up The answer is no this truck just happened to be passing by. A few moments later this car came by.
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Really made me feel like I was there in the old days.
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Sep 08, 2009 19:20 |  #2

just my $.02, but try sepia or b&w. would probably add more of the vintage look you're going for


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Sep 09, 2009 07:57 |  #3

I think I took a shot at the very same barn.... but a totally different thing came down the road!

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Sep 09, 2009 10:00 |  #4

The harsh mid-day sun was not your friend in these shots. It created highlights and shadows that were beyond the dynamic range of your camera's sensor. The near-vertical shadows on the roof planks on the side of the building are a serious distraction.

I realize that you were hoping that the vintage automobiles and old barn would contribute to the feel of a vintage time. However, the old barn would not have been old when the car was young. So there's a temporal conflict here. More tellingly, I think that the size difference was too great. The barn is so big that you couldn't get it all in the shot. On the other hand, if you did get it all in, the vehicles would have been tiny. It's a no-win situation. Lastly, what is that weird structure above the roof on the top right side? Clone it out.


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Sep 09, 2009 15:31 |  #5

I like #1 the best. The red truck looks like it belongs on a farm. I do with the whole barn was in the composition.

I disagree about the shadows being a 'huge' distraction. I'd rahter better light, but it doesnt kill the shot like the crop of the barn.

As for the time (old barn wouldn't be old when...), that doesn't bother me. I get it.


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Sep 09, 2009 16:32 |  #6

Well, on a more serious note, I think you could get a really sweet shot out of this. It seems to have heaps of potential, as a few of the others have mentioned, I too believe that the sun has not done you any favours. If you want to get the whole barn in, perhaps a slight re-position closer to the road with a shorter lens may assist you with this.
As for the chrono-inference implied that the when the car was new, so was the barn, It does not have to strike true. I'm pretty sure they had barns that were old back in ~1950. I do agree that Joels point is valid, in the sense that it does lead the viewer to question the discrpancy, BUT, I think you would be able to cloak that using a few tweaks in PP.

Do let us know if you decide to reshoot (it would be great if you are lucky like last time with the vintage coming down the street, or GodZilla for that matter!) I would love to see the results.

Of course, these are just my opinions and the best shots IMHO is the ones that YOU like!

Sorry about the essay!

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Sep 09, 2009 16:48 |  #7

joedlh wrote in post #8611605 (external link)
The harsh mid-day sun was not your friend in these shots. It created highlights and shadows that were beyond the dynamic range of your camera's sensor. The near-vertical shadows on the roof planks on the side of the building are a serious distraction.

I realize that you were hoping that the vintage automobiles and old barn would contribute to the feel of a vintage time. However, the old barn would not have been old when the car was young. So there's a temporal conflict here. More tellingly, I think that the size difference was too great. The barn is so big that you couldn't get it all in the shot. On the other hand, if you did get it all in, the vehicles would have been tiny. It's a no-win situation. Lastly, what is that weird structure above the roof on the top right side? Clone it out.


Thanks for the comments.
I have, since shooting this , learned more about shooting and the quality of shots that you can get in good light vs mid day light.
A far as the size thing goes, once you get the entire barn in the shot I do feel like the cars would be to small.

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Once you get the same angle I had before you would want the silos in the frame as well. Cutting them out would become distracting,
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Pretty soon the car would become a complete after thought.
I believe that the structure on the roof is a catwalk or something that allows you to access a pipe from the loft. I am not certian though.

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Sep 09, 2009 16:49 |  #8

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just my $.02, but try sepia or b&w. would probably add more of the vintage look you're going for

Once I get some time this evening I am going to try a sepia rendition of the shots. Thanks for the suggestion.


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Sep 09, 2009 16:51 |  #9

RMXSeven wrote in post #8610898 (external link)
I think I took a shot at the very same barn.... but a totally different thing came down the road!

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I knew I went out there on the wrong day. Everyone told me " Kirk there is a huge plush Godzilla running down the road by the old barn" Did I listen, NO.


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Sep 09, 2009 16:53 |  #10

joedlh wrote in post #8611605 (external link)
The harsh mid-day sun was not your friend in these shots. It created highlights and shadows that were beyond the dynamic range of your camera's sensor. The near-vertical shadows on the roof planks on the side of the building are a serious distraction.

I realize that you were hoping that the vintage automobiles and old barn would contribute to the feel of a vintage time. However, the old barn would not have been old when the car was young. So there's a temporal conflict here. More tellingly, I think that the size difference was too great. The barn is so big that you couldn't get it all in the shot. On the other hand, if you did get it all in, the vehicles would have been tiny. It's a no-win situation. Lastly, what is that weird structure above the roof on the top right side? Clone it out.

Oh and I forgot to mention that around here you never know how long a barn has been standing. This is Ga and we had barns long before we had cars down here. Dont worry I do not blame you since you are from NY and all. ;)


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Sep 09, 2009 17:00 |  #11

buurin wrote in post #8613738 (external link)
I like #1 the best. The red truck looks like it belongs on a farm. I do with the whole barn was in the composition.

I disagree about the shadows being a 'huge' distraction. I'd rahter better light, but it doesnt kill the shot like the crop of the barn.

As for the time (old barn wouldn't be old when...), that doesn't bother me. I get it.


Thanks for the comments. Once the proper season comes around I will be back at the barn to get some new shots of it. For the time being the sun is rising and setting in odd places for good lighting on this side of the barn. Mid Winter may be a good time for e to revisit here. I will have to wait and see.

The main reason for the composition in this shot was to line the Newer truck up with this older one.

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I really can not wait to get some good lighting on this old truck. I am hoping to do a HDR shot. I feel like the weathering on the truck and the building will make a good shot

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Sep 09, 2009 17:04 |  #12

RMXSeven wrote in post #8614066 (external link)
Well, on a more serious note, I think you could get a really sweet shot out of this. It seems to have heaps of potential, as a few of the others have mentioned, I too believe that the sun has not done you any favours. If you want to get the whole barn in, perhaps a slight re-position closer to the road with a shorter lens may assist you with this.
As for the chrono-inference implied that the when the car was new, so was the barn, It does not have to strike true. I'm pretty sure they had barns that were old back in ~1950. I do agree that Joels point is valid, in the sense that it does lead the viewer to question the discrpancy, BUT, I think you would be able to cloak that using a few tweaks in PP.

Do let us know if you decide to reshoot (it would be great if you are lucky like last time with the vintage coming down the street, or GodZilla for that matter!) I would love to see the results.

Of course, these are just my opinions and the best shots IMHO is the ones that YOU like!

Sorry about the essay!

~Ronen

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Sep 09, 2009 18:12 |  #13

midnight_rider wrote in post #8614220 (external link)
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The main reason for the composition in this shot was to line the Newer truck up with this older one.
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I really can not wait to get some good lighting on this old truck. I am hoping to do a HDR shot. I feel like the weathering on the truck and the building will make a good shot

That shot is Pro. Makes me want to say, Peek-a-boo!
Sounds like you have resolve on what to do next. Hopefully the lighting situation comes sooner rather than later for you, and we will get to see those awesome shots!

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