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Sep 11, 2009 19:05 |  #9556

hey you guys question. can i increase my ISO more that what is in my slr?




  
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Sep 11, 2009 21:12 |  #9557

I found this deal on a bundle with a Canon EF 75-300mm:

http://www.adorama.com​/ICADRXSIB75.html (external link)

So what do you guys think about having this lens as a starter? Is it a good lens to start with? or would it be too much of a learning curve as I'll be new to DSLR photography.

By the way, thanks for those links Watt100....Sone really great deals and prices on there..


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Sep 11, 2009 22:09 |  #9558

Mycanonxsi wrote in post #8627791 (external link)
hey you guys question. can i increase my ISO more that what is in my slr?

Assuming you're talking about the XSi...

More than 1600? Technically you could shoot at 1600, underexpose, and then raise the exposure level through your computer. You'll get more noise as well as other potential digital artifacts, but it's the digital equivalent of push processing (from film days). You'll need to spend some time experimenting; good photos won't come for free. Still, if you're motivated, you could probably do some interesting things that way.

You might also look to see if there are any firmware hacks that will let you set ISO to 3200 or 6400. If they exist however, they're potentially a risk to your camera (warranty et al), and they'll introduce noise to your photos. You're not going to improve the sensor in the camera, but you might extend the range of what it will permit you to do.

Good luck! Let us know how you do.


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Sep 11, 2009 22:52 |  #9559

thanx man




  
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Sep 11, 2009 23:37 |  #9560

JC32 wrote in post #8628326 (external link)
I found this deal on a bundle with a Canon EF 75-300mm:

http://www.adorama.com​/ICADRXSIB75.html (external link)

So what do you guys think about having this lens as a starter? Is it a good lens to start with? or would it be too much of a learning curve as I'll be new to DSLR photography.

Do you have another lens? This deal seem to include just the 75-300mm - no normal or kit lens. Tele-only would not be a good way to start. I've had various versions of the 75-300. It can be sharp enough in bright light but it's not a very good wildlife or sports lens (too slow to focus, not fast/contrasty enough for cloudy days.)

I think the two lens 18-55IS + 55-250IS is probably the best starter combo. While the 55-250 is also not that good a wildlife or sports lens, it has IS and is smaller/lighter to carry. You will *not* miss the extra 50mm -- the 75-300 is at it's worst (serious PF) over 250mm anyway. (Example: http://www.pbase.com/m​aderik/image/37156858 (external link))


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Sep 12, 2009 00:17 |  #9561

maderik wrote in post #8629079 (external link)
Do you have another lens? This deal seem to include just the 75-300mm - no normal or kit lens. Tele-only would not be a good way to start. I've had various versions of the 75-300. It can be sharp enough in bright light but it's not a very good wildlife or sports lens (too slow to focus, not fast/contrasty enough for cloudy days.)

I think the two lens 18-55IS + 55-250IS is probably the best starter combo. While the 55-250 is also not that good a wildlife or sports lens, it has IS and is smaller/lighter to carry. You will *not* miss the extra 50mm -- the 75-300 is at it's worst (serious PF) over 250mm anyway. (Example: http://www.pbase.com/m​aderik/image/37156858 (external link))


No I don't have another lens, like I said, this is gonna be my first dlsr camera, right now I'll only be able to afford the camera and kit lens, if I go that route....So I'm thinking I should probably just stick with the kit lens for now, learn how to take good pics with it and buy a better lens later on down the line...


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Sep 12, 2009 00:27 as a reply to  @ JC32's post |  #9562

That is a good start. In fact that is where I started. I just got the 55-250 last month and I love it. Next will be a macro. Then I will stop there until I can afford the all elusive "L"
So yes I agree you should just start with the 18-55 IS.
I think it is a good enough lens. After you use it for a while you will get a better handle on what you like to shoot and can decide what to buy from there.:)


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Sep 12, 2009 02:43 as a reply to  @ QueenChatty's post |  #9563

After recently selling my 40d, L's etc for a more portable option I'm starting to regret my decision, so I'm looking about getting back into it all but this time much cheaper! The reviews of the 450D have been really goodand although it's quite small it feels really well made with buttons in the right place. I was in my local shop yesterday and had a play with the Lumix G1 at the same time. There have also been pretty good reviews about the G1, but to me personally it felt like a cheaply made tech toy. Yes it's smaller, too small for me to handle as an slr, and the digital viewfinder just felt annoying! Holding the 450D was like coming back to an old friend, and without the gimmicks. I had a 400D before my 40D and really liked it, in fact shot Rome with it and a Tamron 17-50 really well indeed!

I'm still tempted with a G10/G11/S90 so we shall see which one to buy!


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Sep 12, 2009 05:48 |  #9564

JC32 wrote in post #8628326 (external link)
I found this deal on a bundle with a Canon EF 75-300mm:

http://www.adorama.com​/ICADRXSIB75.html (external link)
So what do you guys think about having this lens as a starter? Is it a good lens to start with? or would it be too much of a learning curve as I'll be new to DSLR photography.
By the way, thanks for those links Watt100....Sone really great deals and prices on there..

I would go with the Canon 55-250IS, the reviews say it's better and for $250 (even less refurbished) the 55-250 is the best "bang for the buck"




  
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Sep 12, 2009 06:20 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #9565

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Sep 12, 2009 10:32 |  #9566

Beautiful shots frizzle :D


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Sep 12, 2009 10:50 |  #9567

very sharp frizzle!!!


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Sep 12, 2009 10:57 |  #9568

JC32 wrote in post #8628326 (external link)
I found this deal on a bundle with a Canon EF 75-300mm:

http://www.adorama.com​/ICADRXSIB75.html (external link)

So what do you guys think about having this lens as a starter? Is it a good lens to start with? or would it be too much of a learning curve as I'll be new to DSLR photography.

By the way, thanks for those links Watt100....Sone really great deals and prices on there..

JC32, That does look like a good deal, but i think you need to ask yourself...what will you be shooting? With this lens you limit yourself to more of a far away picture. I find myself often wanting a more wide angle lens.

If you will be using the camera for your kids sports and you need to be a distance away, i think you will be happy. But if this is going to be your walking around lens you may want something a bit wider.

http://www.amazon.com …cs&qid=12527708​28&sr=8-11 (external link)

Amazon has an 18-55 with a 75-300mm XSI kit for $899.00. Yes a bit more but i think it would be a better fit.


Just my opinion...think about how you will be using the camera. Then you will know.


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Sep 12, 2009 12:13 |  #9569

That 75-300 isn't IS though, right?


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Sep 12, 2009 12:28 |  #9570

izthistaken wrote in post #8631389 (external link)
That 75-300 isn't IS though, right?

It's not and that's why i am back on here. Costco has the XSI w/18-55 IS and the 55-250 IS for the same price. A much better deal and better all around for first time users.

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