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it's official, EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

 
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Sep 08, 2009 17:27 as a reply to  @ post 8607371 |  #211

Do you guys think this lens would work for indoor basketball? It will hopefully be very sharp wide open so shooting at 2.8 may give just enough shutter speed. What do you think?


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Sep 08, 2009 17:36 |  #212

KenjiS wrote in post #8607371 (external link)
That and how big it would be, heavy, optically complicated and EXPENSIVE

if they made a 100mm f/2 macro it would be REALLY big...

I wouldn't think it would be too much bigger than the 135 f/2. It would be similar length(due to macro focusing), a smaller front element, and a bit bigger around for the IS. I don't think it would be huge, just based on my current 100 macro, and 135L.

jvmanolis wrote:
Do you guys think this lens would work for indoor basketball? It will hopefully be very sharp wide open so shooting at 2.8 may give just enough shutter speed. What do you think?

I'd guess no. f2.8 would barely be fast enough, but its the focus speed I'd worry about most. Macro lenses tend to focus a bit slower than normal lenses. I'm hoping the new L focuses faster than the current 100mm macro, but I'm not expecting miracles. I doubt it'll be the ideal sports lens.


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Sep 08, 2009 23:57 |  #213

Wouldn't an 85mm F1.8 work out better for basketball?


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Sep 09, 2009 00:14 |  #214

ErnieT wrote in post #8609470 (external link)
Wouldn't an 85mm F1.8 work out better for basketball?

the f2.8 would not be as fast for indoor lighting, so the f1.8 would be better


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Sep 09, 2009 04:13 as a reply to  @ post 8607371 |  #215

When would they expect it to be in stores?


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Sep 09, 2009 06:11 |  #216

I kind of wish they would come out with a really fast telephoto "closeup" lens. Sort of like Zeiss's 100/2 Makro. I usually find that I want to get really close to my subjects but not 1:1 lifesize. The 135L seems to come really close to this :p


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Sep 09, 2009 12:55 |  #217

BlueTsunami wrote in post #8610504 (external link)
I kind of wish they would come out with a really fast telephoto "closeup" lens. Sort of like Zeiss's 100/2 Makro. I usually find that I want to get really close to my subjects but not 1:1 lifesize. The 135L seems to come really close to this :p

I'm with you on that!

and if I could choose, pleae do it on a 85mm :)


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Sep 09, 2009 16:02 |  #218

ErnieT wrote in post #8609470 (external link)
Wouldn't an 85mm F1.8 work out better for basketball?

I have it. A little more reach and IS would be nice though.


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Sep 09, 2009 17:31 |  #219

Will the 60mm macro work on the MKIII 1.3 crop?


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Sep 09, 2009 17:34 |  #220

Jannie wrote in post #8614359 (external link)
Will the 60mm macro work on the MKIII 1.3 crop?

No. EF-S 60mm macro will only work on APS-C sized sensors. The 1D3 is APS-H and only accepts EF lenses.


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Sep 10, 2009 19:10 as a reply to  @ wickerprints's post |  #221

I just now clicked on Place Your Order, now hurry up Canon! But, I guess it may take many weeks. :(

My 60mm macro has served me well, but I want the L glass, IS, and greater working distance.




  
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Sep 11, 2009 08:21 |  #222

Lucky you, I have to unload my 100mm macro first.


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Sep 12, 2009 23:58 |  #223

kandyredcoi wrote in post #8560213 (external link)
well since ive been wanting a 100/2.8 macro and its been back ordered everywhere, i have a reason to pick this bad boy up, im glad

woot woot!

This could be calculated by Canon. If there is a shortage of their standard product, yet the new product is coming out right now they stand to gain if they give people a little push towards the more expensive lens. On the other hand, if everyone wants the new one once the word gets out about how good it will be (in theory) I wouldn't want to have a large inventory of the old 100 2.8 sitting around that may never sell at non-discounted rates. In either case the lack of inventory for the old one at this point seems somewhat predictable I think (in hindsight).

I have been making due with extension tubes on the lenses I have, but a project has come up that can benefit from a real macro lens that I could even stack the tubes on for further magnification. So, now I'm more interested in a macro lens and am happy to see that there's now an L macro with the mm range and max aperture that interests me at a good price. With this IS it seems like having your cake and eating it too. Now I just wish they'd get it out quickly so I can pick one up!


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Sep 13, 2009 01:31 |  #224

weezerfan84 wrote in post #8562670 (external link)
This lens is also a catch weight in between people who own the 85 1.8 and want the 135, or own a 50 and want either the 100 or 135.

With what this lens has to offer for only roughly $50 more then the 135L, I think many people will jump. I've considered it, since the 135L is priced higher then I'm willing to pay new or used. This lens will come in at 1 stop slower, but does offer IS to negate the stop of light.

It's 35mm shorter then the 135, but you can get closer then you can with the 135 as well. What I ultimately hope is that this will drive down the used price of the 135L. This 100 L macro is a jack of all trades and could easily be the master as well. This offers so much that people want in a very effective focal length.

I don't see it that way. The 135L does something that this new 100 2.8L IS will never do. It's speciality is fast autofocus and low light capabilities (to get the shutter speed up where shutter speed, not IS is required). I use the 135 2.0L lens for volleyball in poorly lit gyms. I've heard of several who use it for basketball in the same situation. With the higher ISO cameras out now, it seems to me that there are several lenses that will be able to shoot in that venue now, but the one thing that's for sure is that the 135L has very fast AF and what should be equally as sure is that the 100 2.8L IS macro will not have fast AF. If it does have a fast AF it would most likely be harmful to the ability to fine focus the macro lens (for those who would attempt to do it that way). So... Jack of all trades... maybe since a jack represents a utilitarian skill set, not an expert skill set. Master of all? I wouldn't count on it.


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Sep 13, 2009 10:04 |  #225

divinemethod wrote in post #8606075 (external link)
Precisely why they WOULDNT make this an f2 :)

In my opinion they wouldn't make it an f/2 "because" it's a macro lens. It seems to me that with a macro lens the fight is to get more DOF rather than less. Even f/8+ at very close distances has a very thin DOF (compared to expectations from an everyday lens especially), which makes it harder to have areas in focus. That's because the typical working distance on a macro lens in many cases could fit entirely within the distance that's too close for an everyday telephoto lens to be able to focus. The closer the lens gets to the subject the narrower the DOF becomes, making it harder to get focus. F/2 only makes this scenario worse. IMO in a macro application IS is a far better solution than wider apertures. From the explanation about the hybrid IS (I saw a link earlier in this thread) the hybrid IS seems like exactly like the right kind of IS for this application as well.


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