7D Received and Tested... short review

jwcdds wrote in post #8728909
That's the beauty of "art". It's purely subjective. I, at times, would rather see some noise in some shots.

underexpose by 2/3s of a stop .

ed rader

jacobsen1 wrote in post #8728223
you get a new camera, PotN's down for the entire day, and NO DUCK SHOTS?!

I know - terrible isn't it. Never mind, here's what you really want.

Have the impression that this 7d dont touch the d700's noise performance, but hey, why the hell did they choose that 7d to have even more pixels then the 50D????

Reservoir_Dog wrote in post #8732785
Have the impression that this 7d dont touch the d700's noise performance, but hey, why the hell did they choose that 7d to have even more pixels then the 50D????

Why compare it to a camera that costs a $1000 more and is FF. Would the D300 not be a bit more of a direct competitor?

1move wrote in post #8730850
But with those additions it works

It does! Thanks!

RiaGurl wrote in post #8729149
ok so the memory is for 25 lenses. the post sounded like there are only 25 lenses of all the canon lenses that are micro adjustable. that's still not clear i don't think???

You're mixing things up. There are two different, lens related things that can be corrected by the camera.

Auto focus calibration, camera body
In case you think your camera body consistently focuses in front of or behind the subject, you can offset the focusing for all lenses the same amount. This doesn't need any memory for lenses, as it's the same for them all.

Auto focus calibration, individual per lens
If you get different focus results with different lenses, you can offset the focusing for a certain lens only. The camera can store such offset settings (micro adjustments) for up to 20 lenses. A lens combined with a telephoto extender counts as an additional lens. This is information nobody can provide the camera with from the outside, as it's used to calibrate a certain individual lens. You have to set it up using your camera and lens combination.

Lens peripheral illumination correction
When shooting jpeg, the camera can correct the lens illumination falloff in the corners (vignetting) directly when the picture is taken. How much a certain lens needs to be corrected is nothing you can set in the camera. Instead, the camera needs a database of the applicable lenses to compute the proper correction. When you purchase a camera with this function, it has a database installed already. This database contains about 25 lenses. If you own a lens that's not pre-installed in the camera, you'll have to connect the camera to your computer, run EOS Utility and use the function where you can pick database records for different lenses within that program and then transfer them to the camera. Select those lenses you own and use. If everything doesn't fit in the memory, delete such lenses you never use.

If you shoot RAW, the camera will not apply the correction. Instead, you can do the correction in Digital Photo Professional. With that software, you can do it already with older models too, like the 40D.

Thanks apersson 850

Super clean..even clean is hard for any crop cameras. I guess you'll stuck with Xsi forever.

kompakt wrote in post #8729141
i played with a 7d today at my local camera shop..

i was disappointed with noise levels above 1600, i never expected this camera to have super super clean iso up to 3200 and beyond but for all the hype about this camera's ability to handle higher iso,i was alittle let down.

but besides iso performance..man is the 7d an amazing model!

RiaGurl wrote in post #8732276
i don't agree about adobe not making later versions compatible.
So is it safe to say that, let's say if cs5 comes out in march2010, then a 1ds4 comes out in april, that the 1ds will not work with cs4. if so thats crazy.

are photographers with the latest equipment usually the types that would also upgrade photoshop every version, no matter what (and apparently the only way for cameras to work that came out after a release of photoshop?)

That's what Adobe hopes, anyway.

RiaGurl wrote in post #8729961
that is if you have cs4, correct? is it correct that you need cs4 to read the 7d raw? will cs3 work? what i don't get and what sucked in the past is that adobe requires you essentially to upgrade to newer version for some cameras. i don't understand why they cannot make newer raw added cameras work within a reasonably recent version of photoshop. i think it's a conspiracy for more money. surely the programmers are smart enough. if other software vendors can handled older version reads, surely adobe could figure it out, but alas, they don't.

I'm using CS3 also. I plan to use the Adobe DNG converter and then process the .dng files, or possibly use DPP 3.7 for the initial raw conversion, save as TIFF, then process in ACR and CS3.

stsva wrote in post #8733341
That's what Adobe hopes, anyway.

To give them their due, they did include beta support for the 7D in the latest Lightroom - even though that was released just two weeks after the 7D was announced. I was expecting them to only support it in v3.

I'm sure that many people know, but it doesn't hurt to say it again:
Of course Adobe hopes you upgrade, but they don't force it by any means.
For newer cameras, simply convert your raw files to DNG, which is super easy and free with the Adobe DNG converter.
Then you can process them in earlier versions of PS without any problem, I think as early as Photoshop CS, but I'm not sure about that.
But you can definitely open them in ACR in PS CS3.

Wouldn't it be nice if the industry would adopt DNG as a standard RAW format... It's waaaay overdue.

It would be nice format, if that's how it works, but is DNG better than raw? Not sure I understand the difference, but are you saying I can take raw files, process them through a converter and then open that in camera raw?

It's nice to have the control of the various features of the raw dialog.

As far as I understand things. DNG is the same as RAW only compatible with more software. I convert ALL of my Raw files to DNG using Adobe Bridge and save them to my hard drive. I then process them as DNG files using Lightroom 2 or photoshop. Before I convert my raw files (CR2) in Bridge I can't see the preview of my shots, once the conversion is complete I see the preview of my shots in bridge and can then Import them into lightroom. Its all relatively simple and quick.