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Oct 02, 2009 19:45 |  #811

ElmerJrG wrote in post #8750363 (external link)
You can find aftermarket Phottix LP-E6s in eBay for $40 with free shipping for two units and a charger. Apparently, the Canon charger will not charge non-Canon batteries without the chip. I have 4 Phottix BP-511As for my 40D and they've been solid but I'm not sure if I want a non-Canon battery on my 7D as it will not show power information and I kinda like the new battery info / tracking system on the LP-E6s. Canon ones sell for $70 a pop which isn't too bad compared to when the 5D2 was just released.

I bought one with the charger for $14 delivered. I'm only going to use it for emergencies (and when I first get the 7D while the Canon battery is charging). Sooner or later someone will figure out how to get around the chip just as they did with the Nikon EN-EL3e.


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Oct 02, 2009 19:58 |  #812

ElmerJrG wrote in post #8750363 (external link)
Canon ones sell for $70 a pop which isn't too bad compared to when the 5D2 was just released.

Amazon.com ... $50.69 for the Canon LP-E6. I just ordered one last night. Not great savings but better than nothing!

If I understand correctly ... the chip only tells you how much power is left? If you charge them before you use it, and carry a spare that shouldn't be a big deal anyway.

I'll get by with the two Canon batteries for now and then order a few of the off brand.


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Oct 02, 2009 20:15 as a reply to  @ johneo's post |  #813

The "new" Circuit City is the same site as TigerDirect. My previous experience with TigerDirect is pretty poor, like they would ship a locked phone even though it says "unlocked" on webpage, or list the wrong frequencies, or never mention a phone is imported from other countries with no English manuals, etc.

The $50.59 battery on Amazon.com is from a store called "Big Value". And they charge shipping. I'd rather get the $59.35 one directly from amazon.com with free shipping.


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Oct 02, 2009 20:16 |  #814

got my extra canon battery from B&H for $66.95. I think what pushed me to get the canon one is all the people saying "you would spend $xxxx on a camera and lens and then skimp out on a battery" i don't think i'll ever need more than two for the type of shooting I do, but who knows. I'm not the type to leave my camera on while I'm not shooting. I have a few friends that do that and it doesn't make sense to me...


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Oct 02, 2009 20:31 |  #815

dinko wrote in post #8750568 (external link)
got my extra canon battery from B&H for $66.95. I think what pushed me to get the canon one is all the people saying "you would spend $xxxx on a camera and lens and then skimp out on a battery" i don't think i'll ever need more than two for the type of shooting I do, but who knows. I'm not the type to leave my camera on while I'm not shooting. I have a few friends that do that and it doesn't make sense to me...

I do, especially with my Canon bodies. They turn themselves off after so much time (set in the menu) and wake up when you depress the shutter button halfway.


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Oct 02, 2009 21:13 |  #816

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Oct 02, 2009 21:15 as a reply to  @ Skippy29's post |  #817

I am forcing myself to explore more uses for my EP1 in the meantime. Good use of time, no more checking status on circuit city, it will ship when it ships. And thats that!


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Oct 03, 2009 00:24 |  #818

ElmerJrG wrote in post #8750363 (external link)
You can find aftermarket Phottix LP-E6s in eBay for $40 with free shipping for two units and a charger. Apparently, the Canon charger will not charge non-Canon batteries without the chip. I have 4 Phottix BP-511As for my 40D and they've been solid but I'm not sure if I want a non-Canon battery on my 7D as it will not show power information and I kinda like the new battery info / tracking system on the LP-E6s. Canon ones sell for $70 a pop which isn't too bad compared to when the 5D2 was just released.

Theres no information whatsoever? or your just talking about in the menu? This is my first canon. I know with Nikon theres the meter on top and a more precise reading via the menu. Im guessing its a similar setup? Also i heard some where they were talking about the camera actually logging battery info and being able to tell if a non canon battery was used, so if there were any shorts it would void the warranty. Seems like crazy talk to me.




  
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Oct 03, 2009 00:42 |  #819

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Theres no information whatsoever? or your just talking about in the menu? This is my first canon. I know with Nikon theres the meter on top and a more precise reading via the menu. Im guessing its a similar setup? Also i heard some where they were talking about the camera actually logging battery info and being able to tell if a non canon battery was used, so if there were any shorts it would void the warranty. Seems like crazy talk to me.

Same as Canons. There is a basic battery meter on the top LCD and percentage / shots remaining on the main LCD menu. Phottix does say that there will be no power information at all but I can't confirm that. Perhaps 5D2 owners using non-Canon batteries can shed a light on this.




  
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Oct 03, 2009 12:16 |  #820

I ordered one additional Canon OEM battery from Amazon and two non-OEM from Bargaincell (through Amazon). The non-OEM do not report any capacity to the camera and even causes a warning prompt in the camera when it is first inserted. Since these were bought as an inexpensive way to have backups to the two OEMs while using the grip, I'm not concerned about the battery level indicators not working.


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Oct 03, 2009 20:25 |  #821

Danie24932 wrote in post #8751423 (external link)
Also i heard some where they were talking about the camera actually logging battery info and being able to tell if a non canon battery was used, so if there were any shorts it would void the warranty. Seems like crazy talk to me.

Crazy talk is what it is. There are too many neurotic people thinking that everything is a conspiracy against them. For the straight skinny, see pages 230 through 233 of the owner's manual. It is "optional" to register a battery with the camera to monitor its total usage and estimate remaining life. You can register up to six batteries and delete data for old batteries no longer used. If you use the battery grip with AA batteries, the logging function is not available. It is also not available for non-Canon batteries for obvious reasons. All this means is that you do not get precise information on the charge state of the Brand-X battery or its estimated remaining life.

The reason that I would stick with Canon batteries is that after-market batteries can't have the same form factor as the OEM battery so they might fit either loose or tight in the camera or grip. Also, it is a crap-shoot on the storage capacity and usable life of no-name batteries.


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Oct 03, 2009 21:18 |  #822

Bill Boehme wrote in post #8755334 (external link)
Crazy talk is what it is. There are too many neurotic people thinking that everything is a conspiracy against them. For the straight skinny, see pages 230 through 233 of the owner's manual. It is "optional" to register a battery with the camera to monitor its total usage and estimate remaining life. You can register up to six batteries and delete data for old batteries no longer used. If you use the battery grip with AA batteries, the logging function is not available. It is also not available for non-Canon batteries for obvious reasons. All this means is that you do not get precise information on the charge state of the Brand-X battery or its estimated remaining life.

The reason that I would stick with Canon batteries is that after-market batteries can't have the same form factor as the OEM battery so they might fit either loose or tight in the camera or grip. Also, it is a crap-shoot on the storage capacity and usable life of no-name batteries. bw!

Yep, I've tried several of the no name batteries trying to save a buck.... to mixed results. I ended up getting the Canon batteries anyway. End result is I spent money I did'nt need to.


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Oct 05, 2009 10:59 |  #823

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So I called Circuit City again, a different guy told me that "it looks like we got them in, but the receiving department hasn't processed them fully yet, so it will probably ship out Monday" I asked "can you confirm this? I'm getting a bunch of conflicting information." He says, "yeah thats what it looks like". Sounds like there MAY be hope. But judging from the past, don't get your hopes up.

TigerDirect or CircuitCity says they are not getting their shipment until October 31st! At least that's what the CSR told me. Someone else on another forum confirmed the same info too. Bummer. Not sure if it's worth the $255 Bing cashback to wait...




  
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Oct 05, 2009 11:16 as a reply to  @ darinf's post |  #824

I just called Circuit City and spoke to a guy named Eric.. real nice guy, but he said that they did get a shipment in that covered some of the pre-orders (not sure if I believe that). He said that about 100 backorders remained open and I was in that group. Then he said he was going to apologize for what he was about to tell me :cry:. He said that they were expecting another shipment of 400 units, but that wouldnt be arriving until 10/31. FWIW, I placed my order at around 1PM on 9/1.

At this point, I could potentially get my cashback on the same day I receive my camera. It sucks to wait, especially when you've "committed" to being an early adopter.. but like I said before, that $255 CB pays for my grip (which I should receive Friday) and an extra battery.. so I'll have to wait it out.


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Oct 05, 2009 11:58 |  #825

seems like all the Bing deals are dead right? finally convinced my wife that i need a second body. whats the best deal on a pre-order right now? thanks


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