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Hypothetical question: Would you keep a wrong ordered lens, if it was in your favour?

 
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Oct 10, 2009 12:59 |  #16

ed rader wrote in post #8796367 (external link)
no the question was at what dollar amount would you become dishonest.

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Ed, I figured you would know my post was in jest :eek: .

Dell sent me a laptop I didn't order . It wasn't even linked to my account, someone in NY ordered it. But somehow it got sent to me on Oklahoma . It was really a pain in getting it straightened out. They kept denying that had they sent it to me. It took a number of calls to get it straight . Really I was almost to the point of keeping it, it was such a pain. But it was sent back and hopefully the rightfull one got it.

So I really know what I would do.

But lighten up people , threads like this should not be taken serious


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Oct 10, 2009 13:01 |  #17

mrkgoo wrote in post #8796374 (external link)
Yea,h I refrained form bringing that up - it's obvious what the reaction to getting sent a lens that is less than what you ordered. You'd be angry and you'd definitely contact the supplier.

Regards to the topic, one must also wonder if the supplier knows about the mistake as well. What if Canon sent you back a different lens from repair?

The bottom line is, if you have the wrong lens, then someone else also has a wrong lens.

how's that your fault? if canon we're doing its job everyone would have the right lens. plus isn't the lens insured.....that means it's will be replaced for free right?

and i'm mad at canon anyway because my 5d II should have the same AF as the new and cheaper 7d...........

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Oct 10, 2009 13:04 |  #18

Here's my story....years back, I ordered a 28-135mm IS Lens from Sears over a long holiday weekend. A day later I found it cheaper somewhere else so I contacted sears to cancel the order. They said no problem. About a week later, I was surprised to find a package from sears with the lens. (Note: No charge was ever made to my CC). After a few phone calls, I finally received instructions from Sears on how to return the lens. I shipped the lens back to Sears and was credited back $400+ for the returned lens. (Remember, I was never charged for the lens in the first place) At that point, I felt my work was done. It's not up to the consumer to correct a merchant if they are making multiple mistakes. My time is worth something. End of story.


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Oct 10, 2009 13:11 |  #19

ed rader wrote in post #8796435 (external link)
how's that your fault? if canon we're doing its job everyone would have the right lens. plus isn't the lens insured.....that means it's will be replaced for free right?

For sure, it's not your fault, but if there's something that can be done about it...

and i'm mad at canon anyway because my 5d II should have the same AF as the new and cheaper 7d...........

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:p

On the question of price vs. dishonesty, I'd probably me more likely to be dishonest at a lower price difference.

Sports_dude: To be honest, I'd have probably done the same. If they continue to insist on giving you stuff...

This is kind of getting off the topic of lenses (which is probably why Ed said to move to off topic in the first place), but I've heard of stories from Apple where people have been shipped a better or an extra computer. They call back explaining the mistake, and Apple simply claim that there isn't a registered mistake at their end, so they can just keep whatever they got. That would be the ideal situation - free stuff, with approval from the supplier!




  
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Oct 10, 2009 13:12 |  #20

Sports_Dude wrote in post #8796453 (external link)
Here's my story....years back, I ordered a 28-135mm IS Lens from Sears over a long holiday weekend. A day later I found it cheaper somewhere else so I contacted sears to cancel the order. They said no problem. About a week later, I was surprised to find a package from sears with the lens. (Note: No charge was ever made to my CC). After a few phone calls, I finally received instructions from Sears on how to return the lens. I shipped the lens back to Sears and was credited back $400+ for the returned lens. (Remember, I was never charged for the lens in the first place) At that point, I felt my work was done. It's not up to the consumer to correct a merchant if they are making multiple mistakes. My time is worth something. End of story.

How did you spend your 400 $ credit then? :D


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Oct 10, 2009 13:13 |  #21

Sports_Dude wrote in post #8796453 (external link)
Here's my story....years back, I ordered a 28-135mm IS Lens from Sears over a long holiday weekend. A day later I found it cheaper somewhere else so I contacted sears to cancel the order. They said no problem. About a week later, I was surprised to find a package from sears with the lens. (Note: No charge was ever made to my CC). After a few phone calls, I finally received instructions from Sears on how to return the lens. I shipped the lens back to Sears and was credited back $400+ for the returned lens. (Remember, I was never charged for the lens in the first place) At that point, I felt my work was done. It's not up to the consumer to correct a merchant if they are making multiple mistakes. My time is worth something. End of story.

let's say you were overcharged $400. would you have pursued it after the one phone call or does the "my time is worth something" also apply here?

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Oct 10, 2009 13:15 |  #22

ed rader wrote in post #8796494 (external link)
let's say you were overcharged $400. would you have pursued it after the one phone call or does the "my time is worth something" also apply here?

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Yes, I would have made a single phone call to my credit card company and call it a day.


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Oct 10, 2009 13:18 |  #23

Since, you brought the Canon slant into it , I would have to think hard about it . Mainly because of the way they are overpricing their lens , at the moment.

So it would be between , being honest or thinking they have it coming.


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Oct 10, 2009 13:19 |  #24

Sports_Dude wrote in post #8796501 (external link)
Yes, I would have made a single phone call to my credit card company and call it a day.

couldn't you have done the same to return money that was not yours?

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Oct 10, 2009 13:22 |  #25

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Since, you brought the Canon slant into it , I would have to think hard about it . Mainly because of the way they are overpricing their lens , at the moment.

So it would be between , being honest or thinking they have it coming.

so let's change the slant to sigma. you'd have no problem with being honest with sigma because their lenses are fairly priced and they've always done you right?

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Oct 10, 2009 13:23 |  #26

mrkgoo wrote in post #8796483 (external link)
For sure, it's not your fault, but if there's something that can be done about it...


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On the question of price vs. dishonesty, I'd probably me more likely to be dishonest at a lower price difference.

Sports_dude: To be honest, I'd have probably done the same. If they continue to insist on giving you stuff...

This is kind of getting off the topic of lenses (which is probably why Ed said to move to off topic in the first place), but I've heard of stories from Apple where people have been shipped a better or an extra computer. They call back explaining the mistake, and Apple simply claim that there isn't a registered mistake at their end, so they can just keep whatever they got. That would be the ideal situation - free stuff, with approval from the supplier!

so you'd find it easier to steal $5 rather than $500?

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Oct 10, 2009 13:27 |  #27

ed rader wrote in post #8796512 (external link)
couldn't you have done the same to return money that was not yours?

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If you read my post above, I already spent enough time dealing with the issue.


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Oct 10, 2009 13:30 |  #28

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If you read my post above, I already spent enough time dealing with the issue.

all your post told me is you justified a way to keep money that wasn't yours.

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Oct 10, 2009 13:32 |  #29

Well, it surprises me that there are more people who would be fair. It's a nice surprise... cos' personally, no matter what the price difference, if i got a better lens then what i payed for, id probably keep it. No guilt either! :)


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Oct 10, 2009 13:34 |  #30

ed rader wrote in post #8796528 (external link)
so you'd find it easier to steal $5 rather than $500?

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Pretty much.

I didn't say it was right, I was just being honest.

For example, if I get given too much change, I normally point it out, but if it's just a few cents, I just forget it. It works both ways, though. Sometimes I I would get paid not enough change and I would forget about it then too.

It depends on the cost of the item in question. If it costs $1, and the price charge was $5, I'd bring it up.

if it cost $1000 but I was charged $1005, i'd probably forget about it.

Again, not saying I'm right or it's a good way to be, just being honest to how I would probably react.




  
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