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1D Mk III vs 7D please i need advice !!

 
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Oct 17, 2009 15:00 |  #16

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. I`m not so satisfait about build quality and weather seal in 5D and i want one upgrade in this direction. I think my option will be 1DMk III....but i still wait other conclusion :)...

In that price what you mention...why need to wait? Buy 1D3 if you don't like build quality of toys ;-)a


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Oct 17, 2009 15:17 |  #17

I'm looking at replacing my 5D before spring. The motivation is prompted by needing more reach. The 1.3 of the 1D is just not going to give me, enough.

Waiting for the dust to settle on the 7D and see how good it's higher ISO really is.... it's between the 7D and the 300 f4 IS.

I don't need the build quality of the 1D and the AF of the 7D looks like it will handle what I shoot without fuss.

I hope the 7D pans out because having a second body has a lot of plusses vs another lens.


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Oct 17, 2009 16:10 |  #18

under £1500 - I was thinking of selling my 1DMKIII but if that's all they go for..........::confused:


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Oct 18, 2009 17:29 |  #19

you must be crazy to mean 1D has a competition with other Canon models, 1D is proffesional stuf only Nikon can compare to

even 5d mark II is a toy if you have a chanche to try a 1d for only one day


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Oct 18, 2009 18:37 as a reply to  @ vreeke's post |  #20

Well...here are some high ISO shots from the 7D.
Honestly, the difference between the 2 cameras in terms of high ISO performance is very slight. Take it from someone who owned the 1DMKIII and "traded down" for a 7D.

With proper NR technique, it's easy to make the noise disappear...and quite obviously so would displaying images web-sized...(1DMKIII and 7D alike...)

Click on the links to see some medium size versions...2600px on the long side

ISO1600

IMAGE: http://nicksan.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p948678307-4.jpg

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ISO3200
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ISO12800 (Look Ma...no banding!)
IMAGE: http://nicksan.zenfolio.com/img/v7/p226968995-4.jpg

http://nicksan.zenfoli​o.com/img/v7/p22696899​5.jpg (external link)

But then, since these aren't of a small bird perched in a tree, I guess this test is irrelevant...:lol:



  
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Oct 18, 2009 20:24 |  #21

These are pretty impressive. Dammit Nicksan, quit selling me on better equipment that I can't justify buying.


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Oct 18, 2009 21:45 |  #22

petris wrote in post #8840758 (external link)
In that price what you mention...why need to wait? Buy 1D3 if you don't like build quality of toys ;-)a

Have you handled the 7D? It's build quality is quite outstanding actually. Sure the MKIII is built great, but the 7D does not feel like a toy to the MKIII, just smaller and lighter.


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Oct 19, 2009 00:29 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #23

Nicksan, those look really good. I noticed they are at 1/320. How does the noise look at high ISO and longer exposures - say around 1s?


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Oct 19, 2009 09:15 |  #24

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Nicksan, those look really good. I noticed they are at 1/320. How does the noise look at high ISO and longer exposures - say around 1s?

I don't use high ISO for 1 second exposures since I would have my tripod with me if I was planning to do any.

I was using a 200mm on a crop body so 1/320 is pretty reasonable I would say...




  
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Oct 19, 2009 09:33 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #25

Well, sure, if you want to be logical, and all that. :)

I am just wondering if some of the bad reports are coming from people using long exposures to test and comparing them to short-exposure shots.


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Oct 19, 2009 09:35 |  #26

BTNorris wrote in post #8848774 (external link)
Nicksan, those look really good. I noticed they are at 1/320. How does the noise look at high ISO and longer exposures - say around 1s?

What "bad reports" are you specifically talking about?




  
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Oct 19, 2009 10:15 |  #27

Very impressive samples Nicksan. The detail seems to hold up very nicely in both the larger versions of the ISO 6400 & 12,800 shot. I do consider the eye detail to be better at 6400 but I'm sure that very few would complain about an average sized print from the 12,800 shot.


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Oct 19, 2009 10:53 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #28

Mostly some grumblings here and complaints by friends-of-a-friend - nothing worth fighting them over.

FWIW: I'm getting a 7d within a couple months unless the 1d-iii prices fall far enough.


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Oct 19, 2009 10:55 |  #29

BTNorris wrote in post #8850790 (external link)
Mostly some grumblings here and complaints by friends-of-a-friend - nothing worth fighting them over.

FWIW: I'm getting a 7d within a couple months unless the 1d-iii prices fall far enough.

Are they using the long exposure CF setting where the camera takes a black shot and subtracts the noise from the long exposure shot? I think that is how it works. I have never tried this myself.


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Oct 19, 2009 11:00 |  #30

Victor - amazing bird photos

I think:
If you want really tough build quality and weatherproofing, go for the 1DIII
If you want newer technology and don't mind a slightly smaller sensor, get the 7D

Personally I'd get the 7D for the newer technology, because if I were going to shoot in tough conditions I wouldn't be relying on digital.




  
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