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1D MK IV vs. D3s - Final Showdown!

 
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Oct 21, 2009 09:56 |  #31

Both shots are taken with ISO 102,400:

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Oct 21, 2009 10:00 |  #32

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Yes but in a highspeed sport/reporter/wildlif​e camera you don't want it... i know the D3s has DX mode but at only 5 or so MP so really i see in this type of camera the FF as a bit of hinderance rather than a plus.

owning the 1d mark III and the 1ds mark III i have to agree. and obviously canon agrees or else they would have scuttled the 1.3 crop sensor.

on paper this mark IV looks like the ultimate sports camera....maybe the ultimate camera.

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Oct 21, 2009 10:01 |  #33

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Well said blonde.

I wonder how many people here know that I spent 2 happy seasons with Canon.

really, who cares ;)?

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ed rader wrote in post #8865289 (external link)
really, who cares ;)?

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Clearly not you Ed.

Smiley or not, that's pretty disappointing.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:05 |  #35

Mastamarek wrote in post #8865250 (external link)
Both shots are taken with ISO 102,400:

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Hm... the 102,400 shots are usable... if you're printing newspaper at 1 inch x 1.5 inch.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:10 |  #36

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Clearly not you Ed.

Smiley or not, that's pretty disappointing.

it's like a homecoming for all the mark III critics. just like old times :D!

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Oct 21, 2009 10:11 |  #37
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Anyone would think you're spoiling for a fight.

Good luck with that.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:12 |  #38

Mastamarek wrote in post #8865250 (external link)
Both shots are taken with ISO 102,400:

I must say that Nikon wins this one.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:13 |  #39

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Anyone would think you're spoiling for a fight.

Good luck with that.

yep, looks like the mark IV will be kicking some serious azz! i wonder how many will jump ship .... again :D!

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Oct 21, 2009 10:17 |  #40

virsago_mk2 wrote in post #8865361 (external link)
I must say that Nikon wins this one.

Hard to say both being pre-production models... :confused: Who knows!


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Oct 21, 2009 10:22 |  #41

virsago_mk2 wrote in post #8865361 (external link)
I must say that Nikon wins this one.

Not even close to being the same kind of photo or conditions, so there is no conclusion to draw.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:22 |  #42

virsago_mk2 wrote in post #8865361 (external link)
I must say that Nikon wins this one.

looks that way. the bigger FF sensor is more sensitive to light. its only day 2 for 1D IV and also I m struggling to believe that all of those D3s shots are straight out of camera. I m sure some NR was applied.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:23 |  #43

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Smiley or not, that's pretty disappointing.

Passive-aggressive behavior via smileys. ;)


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Oct 21, 2009 10:26 |  #44

Does the Nikon have the dual setup where you can use so
ething like Canons Highlight Priority. I use this function at least 50% of the time. It's a hive asset. Yes I have read disparaging remarks about it but in real life I have found this to be a wonderful asset.

I'm in a situation where I do a large amount of people shooting under natural light and I'll work with a perso for about 20 minutes moving around in a very casual way outdoors with people who are natural and without makeup where skin surface even under soft light can develop a sheen, this is most prevalent with bald men. If I were to compensate with normal exposure adjustment, it would just give me under exposed skin tones and some shadow noise, even though I don't shoot at an ISO above 400.

At this point I don't really want to consider a camera that doesn't have this feature.

Also, does Nikon have the Micro Adjust feature, since switching fro
5D classit to a 1DmkIII, this has become another must, especially with the use of the 85L where I actually do shoot at 1.2 quite a lot and because that is my most used lens, where when I get it right, it's amazing but with such shallow depth of field which renders the most amazingly beautiful bokea, even being just a tiny bit off on critical focus can make the shot go dead.

Does Nikon have a good dust removal system; owning a 5D also made me very sensitive to sensor dust and the MKIII has mademy life much calmer.

Canon ID cameras work nicely in my hands, this is huge, I have to feel comfortable and Nikon digit cameras seem to feel awkward, a personal thing as my brother works with Nikon's two top cameras and loves them.

I really think at this point it's a personal choice the OP has to make, they are both great systems.

And is the Nikon 24-70 really that much better? If so this would be a great incentive for Canon to give us an upgrade. I love mine and don't find it wanting, I shoot 90% of my still life/ taetop/ food with this lens and often add an extension tube or two and the lens is pretty wonderful, so wonderful thR I've decided I do 't really want thr new macro which limits me to one focal length for closeups.


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Oct 21, 2009 10:28 |  #45

virsago_mk2 wrote in post #8865361 (external link)
I must say that Nikon wins this one.

well...2 different situations here. one, images are VASTLY different sizes. two...totally different scenes. whos to say the noink image exposure wasnt reduced? the resizing definately makes the noise less prevalent.

resize, reduce exposure and filtered for color noise only.

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