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Oct 22, 2009 10:51 |  #1

Is it possible to get exceptional pictures with the non IS lens versus the IS lens? I plan on shooting sports pictures for HS football and other HS sports and was considering purchasing the non IS lens due to its price.....what is your take on the subject?


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Oct 22, 2009 10:57 |  #2

My buddy has the 2.8 non IS and takes great pictures with it. I have the 2.8 IS version and it takes great pics as well. I think using a monopod with the non IS you will do just fine.


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Oct 22, 2009 11:05 |  #3

I make my income with a non-IS lens so I hope so:eek:

Of course it's possible to take exceptional pictures with a non-IS lens. What difference would IS make? You are shooting sports not a low light wedding so camera shake is not going to be an issue. You have to have a fast enough shutter speed to stop action in sports so IS is irrelevant.

And a monopod will have no effect either. You can use a monopod to mount your cam and lens on if they get heavy. But it will have no effect on image quality.


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Oct 22, 2009 11:13 |  #4

It's a 70-200 L lens. It will take great pictures for you. Just keep in mind, there was a time where IS didn't exist and photographers were still taking AMAZING sports photos. It's just gonna take a nice mono/tripod and/or a little practice to get used to.


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Oct 22, 2009 11:18 |  #5

I wouldn't even consider the IS version if you are shooting sports. Shooting at > 1/500th and there is no point to having IS, and you can save a good $500 off the IS version, if not more.


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Oct 22, 2009 11:20 as a reply to  @ matonanjin's post |  #6

As hard to believe as it may be, people were capable of "good" shots before the advent of IS...

IMHO, for sports, the IS on a 70-200 is no real advantage, at all... If you can't hand hold @ 1/200, maybe go with the decafe! Also, if the lighting is such that you can’t muster at least 1/200 for action sports, maybe put the camera away and just enjoy the game. You might come away with some sportraits, or some interestingly motion-blurred action shots, but not much more. A mono pod will only help if you get too tried to lug all that lens around. I can see IS for 300MM and up. You can stop action reasonably well at say 1/250, but at that speed you would likely see blur due to camera shake if shooting with a 300, so yes, IS certainly has its place in that sports-shooting scenario, but I don’t see it 200 and below if your goal is to stop action. IS for low light stills? Sure if that’s what you’re going to shoot!

Although likely too little of a difference for anyone but the most dedicated pixel peepers to notice, it is said the non-IS version is a bit better in IQ.


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Oct 22, 2009 15:32 |  #7

No problem with non-IS unless you have shaky hands ...




  
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Oct 22, 2009 15:50 |  #8

I have the 2.8 non IS and i get great shots with it, no need for IS. As other have said, IS dosent really do anything if you are shooting sports


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Oct 22, 2009 17:40 as a reply to  @ mxracer535's post |  #9

Thanks guys....I don't know what I was thinking. I see what you all are talking about. I borrowed one before but wasn't sure if the IS would have made a difference on my pics. I liked them but at the time, I wasn't shooting at a high shutter speed, I had the shutter speed at around 1/60 or 1/80 and my ISO was about 100 or 200......


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Oct 22, 2009 17:42 |  #10

IS is not useful for subject motion , so it will not assist you in sports unless you are shooting indoors in low light.


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Oct 22, 2009 17:49 |  #11

The IS version has round aperture blades and is weather sealed. If you're not in bad weather or you're OK with non round bokeh highlights then the non-IS is the better choice

I shoot sports and never use IS. IS is only for indoor / low light photos of subjects that don't move. My subjects are people doing things and are almost always moving.


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Oct 22, 2009 18:05 |  #12

CYO wrote in post #8874485 (external link)
No problem with non-IS unless you have shaky hands ...

And when shooting sports with shaky hands IS will still not make a difference. You have to have a fast enough shutter speed to stop action assuming a "frozen action" shot , not panning, is the effect you want. That means a shutter speed of 1/500 minimum and ideally, at lot faster. Outdoors I always up ISO high enough to get 1/1500. At that high of shutter speed shaky hands will not blur a shot. You might miss your framing or focus:eek::o, but it won't be blurred due to camera shake.


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Oct 22, 2009 21:41 |  #13

if you have funds go IS


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Oct 22, 2009 23:22 |  #14

as for me,theres no big difference bet IS and non IS

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Oct 23, 2009 06:30 |  #15

n1as wrote in post #8875298 (external link)
The IS version has round aperture blades and is weather sealed. If you're not in bad weather or you're OK with non round bokeh highlights then the non-IS is the better choice

Weather sealing may be a bonus if you're shooing with a 1 series body.

This I had to think about a bit. Never noticed that my non-IS suffered from non-round spectral highlights or "circles of confusion". I know I never get those pentagon or octagon shaped highlights I've noticed in older lenses I've owned. What is it, 8 vs. 9 blades? I get fairly round highlights when the background has elements that would produce them.

I had to look hard to find a shot that has these highlights, doesn't happen often shooting indoor sports!

Crappy pic, but you can see the highlights are pretty rounded.

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