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Nov 11, 2009 07:29 |  #31

Order from Amazon under different names and return them just before the last day.

Seriously? How about a night job at Wal-Mart stocking shelves? A few months of that and you will have the lenses paid for. Someone told me a long time ago - Cheese does not work. Wish I had something better to suggest.


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Nov 11, 2009 08:00 |  #32

ChrisMc73 wrote in post #8985304 (external link)
How would you suggest one get the capital to purchase a nice and expensive collection of Canon L lenses...like these? Small business loan? Personal loan? Any creative ways I should consider?

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That assortment of lenses is more than I needed as a working editorial shooter for decades, so I wonder if it might be helpful if you told us just what type of work it is that you'll be using them for?

As for "creative ways you should consider", my 300D & kit lens paid for the 20D, 28-70 f/2.8, & 70-200 f/2.8, 85mm f/1.8... with a ton of money left over, so maybe you're putting the cart before the horse.
And there are plenty of places where you can reasonably rent a cam + lens if you need them for special situations, & the cost can be passed on to the client.


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Nov 11, 2009 08:12 |  #33

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Prostitution or drugs.

I tried pimping myself out for extra cash once...
I then had to sell drugs just to make up for the losses!!!


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Nov 11, 2009 11:30 |  #34

I get what everyone is saying and agree, I'm just telling you, I like to have the equipment at my disposal to experiment with this art...I tend to look at me and my 5D Mark II with my 24-70 and Nifty 50 as a artist or painter with red and yellow paints only. Usually an artist has a whole array of colors at his disposal so they can get brilliant work done; but paint is far less expensive than the Canon L lenses...lol...

If I had more lenses on my pallet I feel I could do more and experiment more and grow in the art...but right now I just have two options to go to. I also want a MacBook Pro, which I have saved for, and I'm about to purchase, to help me with my photo and VIDEO work which is another area I want to grow into, like a painter who also draws. The computer will allow me to organize, edit, fix, and do creative stuff with my output from my camera, so its a big purchase in this scheme of things. Savings will have to be how I get the rest of my lens collection, until I make extra money, which I feel some of the advice here is what I will follow to get that money.

So I know I can save, or get other jobs or stop putting the cart before the horse and just start small and build, which I think I'm going to have to do, I'm just trying to plan and see if there are other avenues for me to get there faster.

Again, I'm from the instant gratification generation. But all your advice (except those people being smart a$$e$) I appreciate.




  
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Nov 11, 2009 11:37 |  #35

renting when you need is an option as well. Gets you the chance to earn a bit of $$ w/o having to shell out a whole bunch right off the bat


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Nov 11, 2009 11:48 |  #36

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Off topic, what are IRA's ?

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Nov 11, 2009 12:17 |  #37

ChrisMc73 wrote in post #8996548 (external link)
I get what everyone is saying and agree, I'm just telling you, I like to have the equipment at my disposal to experiment with this art...I tend to look at me and my 5D Mark II with my 24-70 and Nifty 50 as a artist or painter with red and yellow paints only. Usually an artist has a whole array of colors at his disposal so they can get brilliant work done; but paint is far less expensive than the Canon L lenses...lol...

If I had more lenses on my pallet I feel I could do more and experiment more and grow in the art...but right now I just have two options to go to. I also want a MacBook Pro, which I have saved for, and I'm about to purchase, to help me with my photo and VIDEO work which is another area I want to grow into, like a painter who also draws. The computer will allow me to organize, edit, fix, and do creative stuff with my output from my camera, so its a big purchase in this scheme of things. Savings will have to be how I get the rest of my lens collection, until I make extra money, which I feel some of the advice here is what I will follow to get that money.

So I know I can save, or get other jobs or stop putting the cart before the horse and just start small and build, which I think I'm going to have to do, I'm just trying to plan and see if there are other avenues for me to get there faster.

Again, I'm from the instant gratification generation. But all your advice (except those people being smart a$$e$) I appreciate.

Do you need a MBP? Could you get by with an iMac or Mac Mini, thereby freeing up some money for lens purchases. Also, when it comes time to buy the MBP, can I suggesting looking at the previous revision at MacMall if you have not. I got a screaming deal on a matte 17 unibody with a 2.66 GHz CPU. Apple bumped it to 2.8, but kept everything else the same. Going with the 2.66 saved me 500.00!


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Nov 11, 2009 13:08 |  #38

Honestly it sounds like you are just making an excuse not to go out there and work.

The painter analogy is complete BS.


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Nov 11, 2009 16:42 |  #39

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Do you need a MBP? Could you get by with an iMac or Mac Mini, thereby freeing up some money for lens purchases. Also, when it comes time to buy the MBP, can I suggesting looking at the previous revision at MacMall if you have not. I got a screaming deal on a matte 17 unibody with a 2.66 GHz CPU. Apple bumped it to 2.8, but kept everything else the same. Going with the 2.66 saved me 500.00!

Yes, I need a MBP. I work in IT, the new iMac's are nice, but not for me, the Mac Mini's aren't either...I have saved for the MBP, and I get a discount through an Employee Purchase Program, I work at Seagate, so I've compared with that new MacMall 17" deal, I get a tiny bit more savings through my EPP, thats what I'm going to do, but I'm also waiting to see if the new i7 Cores are coming out on it soon...thanks for the tip though, my friend had told me about it already and I compared. Its a great deal.




  
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Nov 11, 2009 16:45 |  #40

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Honestly it sounds like you are just making an excuse not to go out there and work.

The painter analogy is complete BS.

Ha, thanks! Well, actually I don't have any work, its not work for me right now, its a passion, art, and hobby. So I promise its not an excuse to not go work, I wouldn't want it to be work however, I do have a full time job that IS WORK. Photography is not WORK, for me, its fun, I hope its never WORK, and its always FUN and PASSION and ART...sorry if you feel different. If it becomes a small business that rolls into extra cash, that is mighty fine too, but I hope its never WORK. When it comes to a job, there is a reason its called WORK and not ...FUN. If everyone's job were FUN, and we all said, I'm have to go to FUN today...well...you get my point...but maybe one day it does become a full time job and is still FUN, that would be the best case, right not its not, its just me having fun, trying to learn, and wanting to play with lenses and see what I can do with my creativity.

The painter analogy was just that an analogy, you can call it bs if you want, sure there are some talented people who can do amazing art with 2 colors and a canvas, but there are also amazing artists who can do amazing stuff with a lot of colors and other kinds of media...I guess I just want to explore photography with lenses I've never seen or held before, so sue me. Borrowing a lens, renting them, all good ideas I'll try out. Eventually I will fall in love with some and WANT to keep them.




  
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Nov 11, 2009 22:05 |  #41

aroundlsu wrote in post #8997085 (external link)
Honestly it sounds like you are just making an excuse not to go out there and work.

The painter analogy is complete BS.

I disagree totally with that.

Some people can go and do everything they need to with what they have, Other people such as myself feel they would be benefited by having more tools at their disposal.

I would have agreed with you about the painter analogy before I was at art school for 2 years.

Now with my new found education I agree %100 with OP


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Nov 12, 2009 00:20 |  #42

I know a lot of people do more with less, and some do less with more, I get that stuff, but I think I'd learn a lot more and have more creativity to explore with a few more lenses to choose from. But everyone is right, its gonna take some time to build up a nice collection, since I'm not independently wealthy.




  
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Nov 12, 2009 02:04 |  #43

Well I would normally tell you to join the oilpatch, but it just is not that simple these days.
It has always been a trade off though Make lots of money - lose the wife and your life.




  
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Nov 12, 2009 10:32 |  #44

I only buy gear I have the money for already, have done that since starting out and it's the way to go. It takes time to build a collection that you'll use for different events. They're long term investments for sure and not just go buy to have one. Honestly think you learn to be a better shooter with lesser gear and building your way up though, I know a few who are wealthy or have someone that will fork over money without question and they're stuff is mediocre at best even with the top lenses. Does help when you know what you want to do to have multiple lenses, just need to know how to use them and what you want first.


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Nov 14, 2009 12:06 |  #45

a 5d markII and 24-70 is more than enough to make a ****-ton of money

just go shoot and stop caring about lenses you don't need.


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