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Aug 31, 2009 22:26 |  #1

http://cgi.ebay.com …2BUFI%26otn%3D4​%26ps%3D10 (external link)

this looks pretty decent, as i already have the light setup. i know i need at most 10x15, but there aren't any 10x15 kits like

http://cgi.ebay.com …&ssPageName=STR​K:MEWAX:IT (external link)

since 10x10 is too short.

i'll post a review of what i receive but just wanted to see if anyone bought a kit and liked it.

I have black and grey seamless paper, but i need a white backdrop to project some images on during a banquet in which the black and grey seamless paper will absolutely not cut it.

anywho comments before i pull the trigger? personally, seamless paper to me is a pain in the butt since i like to move around.


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Aug 31, 2009 22:56 |  #2

I bought one of the "10x10" stands from Amvona for ~ $50-60.

Generally speaking its a decent stand for the $$$. Mine was missing a bottom spring... Rather that hassle with shipping it all back I just picked up a close match at the local hardware store.

This past February I needed more than 10' wide myself so I started tinkering. The nice thing about the Amvona (and I'm guessing all the cheap Chinese stands) is the tubes are just big enough to slip fit with 3/4" hard copper pipe.

Cut two 4' sections and added the "stud hole", the stand now has "wings" out to almost 18'.

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For the backdrop I would suggest picking up a 10x20 on fleabay, you should be able to get one for ~ $40. That's what I paid for the 10x20 black used in this picture, which has the backdrop hung 20' wide (with the wings). It was gathered in a couple places in an attempt to look like a stage curtain.

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Sep 07, 2009 02:33 |  #3

will update this thread when the backdrops arrive on the 11th. i pulled the trigger on the two muslin 10x20 black and white with stand kit. there aren't too many reviews on ebay muslin kits, so i guess i'll take a stab at it.


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Nov 19, 2009 20:02 |  #4

how has this worked for you... any updates since getting it..


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Nov 19, 2009 20:44 |  #5

I have one from the first link. The muslins seem a little on the thin side but I don't have much to compare them against.


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Nov 20, 2009 01:27 |  #6

oh holy cow, i forgot to write a review!

ok, i promise to write a review by tuesday. I have some papers that are due on monday, so this weekend is stuffed for me.

Initial reviews: 10x20 is huge, way too big for my home needs. I probably would have been happier with the 10x10 kit that comes with the umbrella if i had known I was going to buy seamless paper at the same time.

So here are the cons:
1) the interlocking crossbars tend to not keep a very strong lock and wiggle a little. But this does not mean that they will fall apart on you in any way. just stating that they twist off easy. minor detail
2) The supplied stands have a 1/4 inch head rather than a standard 3/8 adapter. This means that you have to buy an umbrella adapter holder if you want to use your ebay flash trigger + speedlite.
3) the muslins are slightly thin, but not detrimental in any way. Some say that you should wash your muslins to reduce the chance of light passing through, but i don't want to do that yet.

will update a formal post on tuesday.


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Nov 20, 2009 08:43 |  #7

Yea 10x10 will meet my needs thanks for posting


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Nov 21, 2009 06:52 |  #8

I recently purchased a 7x10 support with 2 5x9 muslins, 1 black and 1 white, off ebay. They have not arrived yet but all I need them to do is hang off the horizontal support. Hopefully they get here soon!

I figured this was big enough for a couple of photos of my kids for Christmas. I was originally looking into a 10x24 chromakey green to do some background editing but I deiced on the simplistic black and white, in a smaller size.


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Nov 22, 2009 09:04 |  #9

thanks for the update


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Nov 22, 2009 12:02 |  #10

B&H has a $99 Impact background set that looks pretty good. It's 10.5 feet high and 12.5 feet wide. Fully adjustable and they say it's strong enough for just about any muslin or paper roll. It gets great reviews too. I ordered one to see how well it works. I want it to replace my huge PVC stand.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ound_Support_Sy​stem_.html (external link)

Edit: I tried this kit out today. Wow. It's a great kit for the price. This is replacing my old stuff.

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The test: bed sheet material vs seamless paper vs muslin (can you tell which is which?) the stitching should give it away.
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this shot is with the muslin material. you can see it is just slightly more transparent than regular bedding material. I think this problem would be resolved if i washed the muslin so that the fibers would shrink.
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bed sheet material. this was washed several times throughout it's life so one would expect that the fibers would not be this close
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seamless paper saves alot of time with wrinkles. that is why most photographers use seamless paper. white muslins for event work
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the last shot is to demonstrate how useful the 10x20 is if it were to be used horizontally (20 x 10) the only issue would be rigging a way to hold the muslin this way as the stand only extends to 10 feet across.

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the final setup. the dotted lines represent how far the actual tripod was situated from the background while still fitting the background in the frame.

before you set up your studio, make sure you take the necessary measurements for your setup.

conclusion: although this kit offers a significant value for the buck, the only advantage of using solid color muslins are that they are portable. It is definitely a pain in the ass to lug a roll of seamless paper with you unless you have a full size fan. you CAN fit a roll of seamless paper in a car with fold down seats, however the roll of paper will only have 12 inches of room before hitting your front windshield: no fast stops please :)

what else..... if there was a kit version that featured light stands (you can never have enough light stands) and 15 feet of muslin vs 20 feet, i would have purchased that version. honestly, 15 feet for a home studio is perfect. anything beyond 15 feet is wasted material (imo).

As for the stands themselves, I dislike how they use non-standard threads 1/4 inch mounts vs the 3/8 tripod mounts. that means you HAVE to buy an adapter in order to use the backdrop kit as a light stand. keep this in mind when you are purchasing backdrop kits as i would have loved to use the backdrop stands as light stands if i did not already have a light stand holder. so again, not a deal breaker at all.

find a 15 foot muslin kit and buy that one if it is cheaper than the 20 foot kit. worse comes to worse, you can cut off the excess 5 feet and make a blanket for your pet.

bw! that's my verdict on ebay muslins. thanks for reading

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Nov 25, 2009 14:26 |  #14

WOW great info... I don't have time to go through it in detail while at work.

But I really appreciate you taking the time to do this...

Now I need to read and then go and play.


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