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Dec 08, 2009 00:37 |  #1

Does FEL stop fast blinkers during preflash in a off camera setup? Canon IR system.

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Dec 08, 2009 01:02 |  #2

Yes. Give it about a second between FEL and the shot.


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Dec 08, 2009 02:05 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #3

It doesn't matter if it's on or off camera. It works about the same.


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Dec 08, 2009 07:09 |  #4

Unless the subjects know that your flash is off camera and where, you may catch them looking over towards the flash direction (where the preflash came from) to see who else is taking their picture. ;)


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Dec 08, 2009 13:16 |  #5

fast blinkers anger me.... few days ago i just gave up on ettl and set them in manual.

Im planning for manual only after i get some radio popper JrX and some RPcubes whenever they get released


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Dec 08, 2009 15:02 as a reply to  @ snakekid's post |  #6

Just turn off the red eye reduction.
then fix the red eye in post processing.

most of the editors have good tools just for this.:)




  
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Dec 08, 2009 16:26 as a reply to  @ drh681's post |  #7

What difference would that make to the pre-flash?


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Dec 08, 2009 16:47 |  #8

apersson850 wrote in post #9159792 (external link)
What difference would that make to the pre-flash?

I think red eye reduction is when you use the internal flash, it flashes half a dozen times to make the pupil contract. I've never seen a Speedlite do that, but i've never turned red eye reduction on either.

I think red eye reduction may MAKE people blink.


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Dec 08, 2009 17:56 |  #9

My red eye reduction is off. I always thought Red Eye Reduction was some sort of in camera editing not a flash technique.
Who uses the internal flash anyways? Speedlights are high enough that red eye should almost never be an issue.


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Dec 08, 2009 18:58 |  #10

tim wrote in post #9159929 (external link)
I think red eye reduction is when you use the internal flash, it flashes half a dozen times to make the pupil contract. I've never seen a Speedlite do that, but i've never turned red eye reduction on either.

I think red eye reduction may MAKE people blink.

You're thinking about the focus assist blitz of light from the built-in flash. That's not for red-eye reduction. The red-eye reduction is done via a little light bulb by the side of the lens near the shutter button.


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Dec 08, 2009 19:07 |  #11

Isnt the little light bulb by the side of the lens the timer for self portraits?
Anyways i got my answer so...
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Dec 08, 2009 19:20 |  #12

PacAce wrote in post #9160715 (external link)
You're thinking about the focus assist blitz of light from the built-in flash. That's not for red-eye reduction. The red-eye reduction is done via a little light bulb by the side of the lens near the shutter button.

Ah, interesting, I wondered what that was. I just had a play with the 7D and it didn't seem to want to fire, I guess it only fires under certain conditions?


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Dec 08, 2009 19:32 |  #13

tim wrote in post #9160842 (external link)
Ah, interesting, I wondered what that was. I just had a play with the 7D and it didn't seem to want to fire, I guess it only fires under certain conditions?

The red-eye reduction beam seems to only turns on if it's been enabled via the menu and when focus has been achieved and locked (and, of course, the built-in flash has to be popped up and ready). I always have my red-eye reduction disabled so there's a chance I could be wrong. :)


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Dec 08, 2009 19:38 |  #14

PacAce wrote in post #9160908 (external link)
The red-eye reduction beam seems to only turns on if it's been enabled via the menu and when focus has been achieved and locked (and, of course, the built-in flash has to be popped up and ready). I always have my red-eye reduction disabled so there's a chance I could be wrong. :)

I turned it on and locked focus, but had a speedlite on the hotshoe that wasn't turned on. Maybe i'll go read the manual.... nah ;)


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Dec 08, 2009 19:43 |  #15

tim wrote in post #9160937 (external link)
I turned it on and locked focus, but had a speedlite on the hotshoe that wasn't turned on. Maybe i'll go read the manual.... nah ;)

Did you miss the part about the built-in flash needing to be popped up and ready? ;)


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