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New Gear arrived today..Am I doing something wrong?

 
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Dec 18, 2009 15:53 |  #1

So UPS was nice enough to leave my $600 package from Alienbees out on my doorstep today.

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I am completely new to Off-Camera lighting other than using a flash bracket for wedding photography.
I have 2 questions.

1. On one light stand I have my 550EX on a Swivel Bracket. The Flash is not aimed at the center of the umbrella as you can see in my crappy snapshot below. Does the Speedlite need to be aimed at the center for best results or will this not affect the photographs?

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2. When I took my umbrella out of the Swivel Bracket I noticed that I damaged the metal where the screw tightened the umbrella shaft into place. Is this normal or is there a way to prevent it?

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
By the way...how cool it it that the Cybercync box has a freaking Pterodactyl on it. (Is it wrong for a grown 30 year old man to still love dinosaurs?)

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Dec 18, 2009 15:59 |  #2

The flash should be turned 180 and insert the umbrella from the opposite side as well. The umbrella hole is drilled at an angle it should be inserted so the center of the umbrella is raised torward the flash head.


As for the tube collapsing that is common with many umbrella shafts, my partner filled his with a black silicone like substance (from home depot) and let it dry for a week, didn't completely eliminate the issue but helped quite a bit.

And yes the dinosaurs thing is completely normal.


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Dec 18, 2009 16:00 |  #3

1) you have your flash facing the wrong way...attach the flash with the lever on the right (notice in the pic is is on the left of the flash, facing down)...then the flash will hit the center...
2) break off a piece of pencil, shove it down the shaft of the umbrella and you'll be alright...




  
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Dec 18, 2009 16:00 |  #4

You have your umbrella positioned in the bracket the wrong way. The whole is angled and is directional. Also, only screw your umbrella in at the base where it is reinforced.


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Dec 18, 2009 16:04 |  #5

Wow, thin metal there. I've cranked in my Softlighter umbrella as hard as possible and I've never left a mark.


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Dec 18, 2009 16:36 |  #6

Haha, I just read about this situation on the strobist lighting 101 blog yesterday. It's a common mistake that people often put the umbrella backwards as the hole is drilled. I think your umbrella will be alright even with the pinch on it too. Enjoy your new kit!


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Dec 18, 2009 16:45 |  #7

yep, and there's even a vid at the strobist 101 section showing how to attach the flash...
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Dec 18, 2009 16:55 |  #8

Sam|McGuire wrote in post #9224360 (external link)
You have your umbrella positioned in the bracket the wrong way. The whole is angled and is directional. Also, only screw your umbrella in at the base where it is reinforced.

but there are some instances when you need to screw them in the mid part of the shaft for certain effects.


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Dec 18, 2009 17:21 as a reply to  @ jeromego's post |  #9

+1 on the pencil suggestion.

I shoved pencils into the shaft on all my umbrellas. Works like a charm.




  
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Dec 18, 2009 18:25 |  #10

int2str wrote in post #9224774 (external link)
+1 on the pencil suggestion.

I shoved pencils into the shaft on all my umbrellas. Works like a charm.

+2 :)


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Dec 18, 2009 18:38 as a reply to  @ pepperoni's post |  #11

Here's an example of how you should set up your flash, and umbrella

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You are pushing your umbrella shaft to much into the whole, it just needs to be in enough to be able to tighten. Turn your flash around, and replace the umbrella thru the upwards angle hole, It's an honest first mistake, that a lot of us have done too.

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Dec 19, 2009 04:28 |  #12

1. Little difference in practice.
2. Buy a better quality umbrella with a solid rod.
3. There is no three. La de dah.


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Dec 19, 2009 18:34 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #13

Whoops!!! Rookie Mistake! Thanks for the assistance all. I realized that I was definitely tightening the umbrella into place too tight. I think I'm still going to shove a pencil in it to be safe. (This is the only instance where speaking this sentence if OK" :) )

I have a lot of learning to do. Thanks for the link to "The Strobist". That seems like a great starting point.
Time to go Practice Practice Practice!

Thanks Again!


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Dec 19, 2009 18:48 |  #14

1) your umbrella is mounted wrong, and your flash head can be turned 180 degrees. Do this and you'll be golden.

2) you do not need to over tighten the knob that holds the umbrella in place. Just tighten it to the point where it won't move, and you'll be golden!

The whole dinosaur thing? That's up to you. Not me.


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