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Someone bought my 18-55IS kit Now what?!

 
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Dec 17, 2009 14:11 as a reply to  @ post 9216833 |  #16

For low-light shooting, the Canon 28-135 will be too slow, even with IS, although it is a quality consumer walk-around lens, generally speaking. For low light shooting with stellar IQ, look at either the Tamron 17-50 or 28-75 2.8 lenses, depending on what focal length you prefer. They are fantastic lenses for the price, and will be a significant IQ upgrade over the lens you sold. The only downside is that the AF can hunt in low light, but if you have a Canon Speedlite available for AF assist, you're golden.


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Dec 17, 2009 19:17 |  #17

Thanks guys.

I am just looking for a replacement with an IQ at least similar or better than the kit I used to have. I am very comfortable with the focal range of the kit.

I will use it mailny for landscapes, group shots, architectural shots as mentioned earlier in my posts.

So the general consensus is the constant 2.8 tamron is a better upgrade than both the canons?

Someone mentioned the sigma. Is the price same as the tamron?

I so have the af assist in my 430ex so hunting will be lessened (as did my kit and the nifty)


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Dec 17, 2009 19:36 |  #18

I'd go with the Tamron 17-50 2.8. No image stabilization though. The newer VC version has some mixed reviews.

The Canon 17-55mm IS 2.8 is great, but expensive.

I ended up getting rid of my kit 18-55mm IS when I sold my previous body...but I then bought another one since its great for the price. :o


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Dec 17, 2009 19:50 |  #19

Get a prime. IT's time.


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Dec 19, 2009 23:32 |  #20

I am noew down to the tamron 17-50 2.8 vs the canon 17-85...

choice s choices... hope i get a good deal


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Dec 19, 2009 23:41 |  #21

Seems you jumped the gun a little bit.

I think you have a few options here and the sell board here is great for all of those options.
1. Buy another 18-55IS and pocket the difference.
2. Buy the Tamron 17-50 as you noted, which is what I did.
3. Buy the Tamron 28-75 which I also did as I felt the 50 was always just a hair short.
4. Buy the 17-85 as you stated, I never owned it and folks love it or hate it.

If you buy from here and don't like it, you can typically sell it for what you paid for it, so try both options you listed and sell the one that you don't like.


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Dec 20, 2009 00:06 |  #22

What about the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5 Macro? It is longer and has f/2.8 at the wide end which would be useful for low light.


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Dec 20, 2009 08:11 |  #23

abjam77 wrote in post #9231258 (external link)
What about the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5 Macro? It is longer and has f/2.8 at the wide end which would be useful for low light.

I love my sigma, definitely a good choice


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Dec 20, 2009 09:43 |  #24

I replaced the 18-55 Pre IS with a 17-85 IS and found that it was a capable lens, however I found that I wanted more reach. So when I upgraded my camera I purchased it with the EF 28-135 IS, which I also found to be a capable lens. I recently bought a Tamron 17-280VC and that is what is currently on my camera, IT seems to be a nice lens, however I have only had it for a little less than a month, and this is a very busy time for me so I haven't had the opportunity to really get to know this lens. Now having said that it would seem to be an almost perfect compromise for a walk around lens, providing you don't walk in dark places, (the 18-270 is never going to be accused of being a fast lens).

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Dec 21, 2009 05:48 |  #25

watt100 wrote in post #9216792 (external link)
true, the OP would have more focal range but significantly worse image quality/resolution/sha​rpness than the good ol' 18-55IS lens
www.photozone.de (external link)

Sorry, I have them both and the Sigma 18-125 OS HSM has better overall image quality than the 18-55IS. It's not perfect but it's an excellent walk around lens.

HERE (external link) are some sample images taken with the lens. that can be downloaded if you want to pixel peep. My 18-55IS sits on the shelf in the storage room unused and the 18-125 OS HSM rarely comes off the camera.

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Dec 21, 2009 07:25 |  #26

Jim Holtz wrote in post #9237497 (external link)
Sorry, I have them both and the Sigma 18-125 OS HSM has better overall image quality than the 18-55IS. It's not perfect but it's an excellent walk around lens.

HERE (external link) are some sample images taken with the lens. that can be downloaded if you want to pixel peep. My 18-55IS sits on the shelf in the storage room unused and the 18-125 OS HSM rarely comes off the camera.

Jim

right, everyone has their own "backyard" tests that purport to show their lens are the sharpest. The reality is there are now independent tests that compare different lens and measure the image resolution. Check them out, here are a couple sites that may disagree with your findings -
www.photozone.de (external link)
http://www.the-digital-picture.com (external link)


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Dec 21, 2009 08:35 |  #27

watt100 wrote in post #9237774 (external link)
right, everyone has their own "backyard" tests that purport to show their lens are the sharpest. The reality is there are now independent tests that compare different lens and measure the image resolution. Check them out, here are a couple sites that may disagree with your findings -
www.photozone.de (external link)
http://www.the-digital-picture.com (external link)


http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=2 (external link)

I'm not sure if shooting real pictures in my enviroment and then pixel peeping is a "backyard" test but the reality is, I can take the same image with my 18-125 OS HSM and 18-55IS and the 18-125 OS HSM image is simply sharper and has better color and contrast. I fully expected to return the 18-125 OS HSM and was very pleasantly surprised with how good it was.

I also sent it and the camera to Sigma for calibration to squeeze out every bit of image quality possible. It took 9 days total including shipping and was covered by Sigma's warranty.

BTW, I researched just about every lens I could and couldn't afford at every website that tests lenses before I bought the 18-125 OS HSM so the test reports are nothing new. If you looked at the images I linked to, you would see that I don't spend a lot of time wide open or in low light. F/5.6 to F/8.0 the Sigma is stellar. If I were shooting low light where a flash isn't appropriate, I'd use a fast prime but I don't.

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Dec 21, 2009 09:30 |  #28

i am in the verge of getting the tamron :D but i have a 50mm f1.8

do you think i can do away with this the nifty? :D


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Dec 21, 2009 10:33 |  #29

John; having a fast 50mm prime around is always a good idea, especially when you have one which is as inexpensive as the Canon EF50 f1.8

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Dec 21, 2009 17:26 |  #30

johnj2803 wrote in post #9238316 (external link)
i am in the verge of getting the tamron :D but i have a 50mm f1.8

do you think i can do away with this the nifty? :D

I did not feel I could get rid of mine when I got the Tamron, actually I ended up getting rid of it for the 50 1.4.

Keep it for a while as 1.8 to 2.8 is pretty big. You can always sell it later.


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