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Dec 24, 2009 15:39 |  #16

your computer geek friend just wants you not topping his own system. thats all it is, rivalry. and most computer geeks wants their system to be better than others, especially if you "dont know" (per se) anything and youre system is better than his.

but in truth, you dont need a quad-core processor, its just nice to have. core 2 duo is the benchmark right now for any processor. i5 and i7 is just making its debut.

you can get a mini-tower PC with the laptop for under 2k. but if youre in a tight budget, just go with the laptop and another monitor to hook up the laptop for image processing. that way, if youre gonna move, you only have a laptop and a monitor instead of laptop and a desktop .


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Dec 24, 2009 15:56 |  #17

amg2833 wrote in post #9257033 (external link)
I agree. Why bother. It seems I'll end up going for the i7 I listed earlier. It seems to get everything done I need.

I don't want to go the dual desktop/laptop route, because I'm a student whose never any place long. I'm in a new apartment every year, but I'm also between that and my hometown a lot. I'd have to go without a computer for almost a month at times with a desktop.

Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.

dude, like i said, if youre gonna go the i7 route, might as well go with the extreme edition clocked at 3.33ghz. the one that youre looking at the i7 920 qm with clockspeed of 1.6ghz

youre being robbed with this. youre paying for an i7 price with the speed of core 2 duo.

if you didnt read my last post, mine has i5 with a factory clock speed of 2.66ghz, more if i overclock it. sure you can get more if you overclock yours but the rules of modding (anything) is that you start with a great foundation so your end result is better than if you start with just a decent foundation.

im done, you wouldnt listen to us anyways.


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Dec 24, 2009 16:10 |  #18

Panda_stunter wrote in post #9255892 (external link)
as for the debate with what to pick, i7 v. i5; i7 is the better processor. but core 2 duo isnt that far behind since it is also a quad-core based processor. core 2 is dual-processor.

This is incorrect. A a Core 2 Duo processor is dual core, a Core 2 Quad processor is quad core. There is no such thing as a Core 2 processor, though there is the Core 2 Solo, which is single core.

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dude, like i said, if youre gonna go the i7 route, might as well go with the extreme edition clocked at 3.33ghz. the one that youre looking at the i7 920 qm with clockspeed of 1.6ghz

youre being robbed with this. youre paying for an i7 price with the speed of core 2 duo.

if you didnt read my last post, mine has i5 with a factory clock speed of 2.66ghz, more if i overclock it. sure you can get more if you overclock yours but the rules of modding (anything) is that you start with a great foundation so your end result is better than if you start with just a decent foundation.

im done, you wouldnt listen to us anyways.

You're misinformed.

An i7 at similar clock speeds to a Core 2 Duo is significantly faster. It's not just an incremental increase, it's a lot. There are a variety of reasons for this, not least among them memory bandwidth and a whole lot of logical cores. (4 times as many as in a Core 2 Duo, though only twice as many physical cores) Also, I assume it's a typo, but a 920 is 2.66 GHz, not 1.6GHz.

I personally think the extreme edition is a waste of money, especially if you intend to OC. The extreme doesn't really give you that much more, yet you pay over 3 times as much last I checked. $1k for a processor is a bit of a waste imo.




  
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Dec 24, 2009 16:22 |  #19

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An i7 at similar clock speeds to a Core 2 Duo is significantly faster. It's not just an incremental increase, it's a lot. There are a variety of reasons for this, not least among them memory bandwidth and a whole lot of logical cores. (4 times as many as in a Core 2 Duo, though only twice as many physical cores) Also, I assume it's a typo, but a 920 is 2.66 GHz, not 1.6GHz.

I personally think the extreme edition is a waste of money, especially if you intend to OC. The extreme doesn't really give you that much more, yet you pay over 3 times as much last I checked. $1k for a processor is a bit of a waste imo.



yeah, it is a waste to get a processor like that, so i second your opinion, what im trying to say is that, for what he wants to use it for core 2 duo is enough. he doesnt need an i7 which he would have to pay more. and by significantly what do you mean? its twice, thrice as fast? and what does that sum up to? half a second? a second faster?

sorry, about the misinterpretation on my part regarding the core 2 duo since its a dual processor. i only said that coz the core 2 duo is the gateway for the quadcore so the concept is the same. so again, sorry, the sarcasm and the sleep-deprivation dont mix! haha!

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Dec 24, 2009 16:24 |  #20

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sorry, the sarcasm and the sleep-deprivation dont mix! haha!

:lol:

Sarcasm on little sleep, my most often used form of humor, I know how that goes.




  
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Note that any Quad or any laptop bigger than 14" is going to dramatically decrease your battery life and be very heavy. Expect up to 1 1/2 hour at most

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Dec 25, 2009 12:58 |  #22

I honestly don't believe 4GB RAM are enough if your running LR and CS3 or CS4.


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Agree: I have 5.5Gig of Ram in my dual G5, and PSCS4 is regularly below 100% efficiency (swapping)...


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Dec 26, 2009 08:09 |  #24

amg2833 wrote in post #9257033 (external link)
I don't want to go the dual desktop/laptop route, because I'm a student whose never any place long. I'm in a new apartment every year, but I'm also between that and my hometown a lot. I'd have to go without a computer for almost a month at times with a desktop.

Anthony,

I think what some of the others are trying to say is -- get the power desktop if at all possible....and only get a pimped-out laptop if you absolutely have to have it.

The reasons are many, but part of it is perspective. If you're use to doing your work (CS4 or Autocad, for that matter) on a "power tower" with a 24 inch monitor, then no laptop in the world can compete with this. So people that want that "power" whenever they can get it are going to be frustrated trying to use much of anything less....and consequently are going to be far less likely to drop $2k on a laptop that can't do what their $1k desktop will do.

Of course, if you have no "power tower" to compare it to AND/OR if you're use to using a desktop that's 4+ years old, then an i7 laptop will very likely seem like a great system for your needs.

For myself, the biggest annoyance with laptops and photo editing is desktop size. I use a Macbook for work because I need something small I can tote around....and the 13.3 inch screen is fine for sending emails and drafting my work documents. I started off using LR2 in a pinch when I really needed it, but now I find myself hardly ever doing even that any more....because I'd just rather wait until I can get home to my Mac Pro desktop and a much larger screen. It's all one's perspective.

A 15 inch laptop would be better, but many still find such workspace cramped and tiny.....and so some opt to get a 2nd monitor and push it via their laptop's external monitor option. So it's something to keep in mind as you get started with your i7 laptop. The 4570 mobility card (in one of your spec'd computres) should be plenty to push an external monitor.


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