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Canon 15-85, Tamron 17-50 VC, Sigma 17-70 OS Comparison Pictures.

 
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Dec 25, 2009 11:26 |  #136

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If folks dont mind using an external flash indoors im sure the 15-85mm can take some very nice captures. Im also fairly confident the 15-85mm is a much better built lens then the Tamron 17-50 VC.  :p

That's a good point about the flash. I am so happy with my 15-85 + Sigma flash that I am starting to seriously regret my Sigma 30mm purchase. I don't know if it is (a) my lack of skills shooting at large apertures (b) a Sigma focusing issue or (c) lack of IS on the Sigma, but my indoor shots with my 15-85 are so much better with the Canon. I wish the weather here wasn't so bad or I would try some wide open long distance shots with the 15-85 to see how the crops look. All of my long shots are at f/8 - f/14 and the crops are pretty sharp in all corners and the center, but that should be expected from any lens.


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Dec 25, 2009 12:05 |  #137

Silverfox1 wrote in post #9261357 (external link)
[If you're primarily outside doing your shooting, The 15-85 is the better tool, unless you're working at night [In which case id go with a prime instead..]
If folks dont mind using an external flash indoors im sure the 15-85mm can take some very nice captures. Im also fairly confident the 15-85mm is a much better built lens then the Tamron 17-50 VC. :p

Personally i have alot of patience and will wait another few months for more independent reviews by actual member owners along with a few of the more reputable testing sites.

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Why are you so sure ? :p


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Dec 25, 2009 12:12 |  #138

Silverfox1 wrote in post #9261357 (external link)
[One thing for sure IMO the new Sigma 17-70 OS is definitely off my wish list unless SpartanWarrior had a bad copy used in these tests.

Regards, :D

I am 99.9% absolutely positive the sigma was a bad copy, I will get another after new years;)


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Dec 25, 2009 12:55 |  #139

DaveSt wrote in post #9261558 (external link)
That's a good point about the flash. I am so happy with my 15-85 + Sigma flash that I am starting to seriously regret my Sigma 30mm purchase. I don't know if it is (a) my lack of skills shooting at large apertures (b) a Sigma focusing issue or (c) lack of IS on the Sigma, but my indoor shots with my 15-85 are so much better with the Canon. I wish the weather here wasn't so bad or I would try some wide open long distance shots with the 15-85 to see how the crops look. All of my long shots are at f/8 - f/14 and the crops are pretty sharp in all corners and the center, but that should be expected from any lens.

Try shooting the Sigma at f2 and see if that helps. You should be able to get good shots, if your shutter speed is high enough - say 1/50 or 1/60. You may need a high ISO.




  
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Dec 25, 2009 13:07 |  #140

DaveSt wrote in post #9261558 (external link)
That's a good point about the flash. I am so happy with my 15-85 + Sigma flash that I am starting to seriously regret my Sigma 30mm purchase. I don't know if it is (a) my lack of skills shooting at large apertures (b) a Sigma focusing issue or (c) lack of IS on the Sigma, but my indoor shots with my 15-85 are so much better with the Canon. I wish the weather here wasn't so bad or I would try some wide open long distance shots with the 15-85 to see how the crops look. All of my long shots are at f/8 - f/14 and the crops are pretty sharp in all corners and the center, but that should be expected from any lens.

No don't regret it, I love mine and when I bought it it needed to be calibrated but once it was it is tack sharp, very very good lens;)


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Dec 25, 2009 23:57 as a reply to  @ SpartanWarrior's post |  #141

I'd have a Sigma 30mm f/1.4 if its MFD didnt stink :( I love MFD too much


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Dec 26, 2009 00:26 |  #142

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Why are you so sure ? :p

Your right ! Since it is human nature for new owners of the Canon to be a little bias i shouldnt be basing my opinions on a few hundred happy owners of the 15-85mm ive read reports from ! :p

I quess im simply basing my confidence opinion on the build quality of the Canon from posts of owners on various forums of both lenses. Quite a few folks have purchased the new Tamron VC first, returned it without opting for an exchange & bought the Canon. Also the reports of the new 15-85mm having an updated IS mechanism versus the 17-55mm that is known for a % of failures. The current return rate of the new Tamron VC version which may not have nothing to do with build quality but engineering design, QC on the production line, or both could possibly be the culprit for the higher then normal return & exchange rate of the new VC version. I could be mistaken but personally i havent heard of too many folks returning the Canon for front or rear focusing issues, lens to body contact errors, erratic behavior when the IS kicks in, etc. versus the new Tamron VC.

I am a patient buyer versus an impulsive type and after all the smoke clears my decision hopefully wont come down to a coin-toss ! :lol:

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Dec 26, 2009 03:52 |  #143

To OP, thanks for doing all this work.

The Sigma photo clearly shows that the focus is on the railing of the balcony. I believe this is also the reason why the photo appears to be overexposed (your 7D thought the railing and the immediate background is THE SUBJECT).

Newer Sigma lenses are generally good if focus is accurate, unfortunately.

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Ok all three at 17mm f/3.5 it was really cloudy and hazy also but the sigma is the worst of all for crying out loud, and Tamron the best
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Dec 26, 2009 04:00 |  #144

Continuing on my previous post...

According to OP, these photos were taken with center focus point on the pole. Based on that fact, these photos show how good the tamron (OP's copy) is focusing.




  
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Dec 26, 2009 09:16 |  #145

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Your right ! Since it is human nature for new owners of the Canon to be a little bias i shouldnt be basing my opinions on a few hundred happy owners of the 15-85mm ive read reports from ! :p

I quess im simply basing my confidence opinion on the build quality of the Canon from posts of owners on various forums of both lenses. Quite a few folks have purchased the new Tamron VC first, returned it without opting for an exchange & bought the Canon. Also the reports of the new 15-85mm having an updated IS mechanism versus the 17-55mm that is known for a % of failures. The current return rate of the new Tamron VC version which may not have nothing to do with build quality but engineering design, QC on the production line, or both could possibly be the culprit for the higher then normal return & exchange rate of the new VC version. I could be mistaken but personally i havent heard of too many folks returning the Canon for front or rear focusing issues, lens to body contact errors, erratic behavior when the IS kicks in, etc. versus the new Tamron VC.

I am a patient buyer versus an impulsive type and after all the smoke clears my decision hopefully wont come down to a coin-toss ! :lol:

Regards, :D

The thing is , when I did a google on the Tamron , I found more people liking the Tamron then not liking it. There was a couple that talked about contact errors, but most of the ones dishing it came from people who had never even used it. I doubt they had even seen one. I did read where some thought it focused faster and the nosie wasn't as bad as the non-vc lens.
While i'm not found of the plastic feel of the non-vc model, I aways thought Tamrons plastic was just as good as Canons plastic :D.


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Dec 26, 2009 11:39 |  #146

Silverfox1 wrote in post #9261357 (external link)
Im also fairly confident the 15-85mm is a much better built lens then the Tamron 17-50 VC.  :p


are any of the EF-S lenses really built well?...i know some may be built better than others...i have no experience with tamron lenses, but the sigma, and tokina i have are built like tanks compared to the EF-S's i've used

also where are you finding all these people that are dissatisfied with their tamron...i feel like this is the first hands on i've really seen with the lens...i'm still surprised how quickly the sigma was available after being announced


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Dec 26, 2009 11:50 |  #147

DreDaze wrote in post #9265635 (external link)
are any of the EF-S lenses really built well?

The EF-S 15-85 is really built well. (probably the best EF-S lens to date)


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Dec 26, 2009 12:58 |  #148

msowsun wrote in post #9265669 (external link)
The EF-S 15-85 is really built well. (probably the best EF-S lens to date)

I agree with you Mike. The 15-85 has a much nicer build than any other EF-S lens I have tried to this point, although I don't really have much of a complaint about them in general. I also think the EF-S 60 has a pretty decent build.


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Dec 26, 2009 15:24 |  #149

DaveSt wrote in post #9265977 (external link)
I agree with you Mike. The 15-85 has a much nicer build than any other EF-S lens I have tried to this point, although I don't really have much of a complaint about them in general. I also think the EF-S 60 has a pretty decent build.

+1 15-85 has a nice weighty feel to it..everything is nice and tight just like a nice asian chick lol...but nothing like a 24-70 :drool:


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Dec 26, 2009 15:48 |  #150

msowsun wrote in post #9265669 (external link)
The EF-S 15-85 is really built well. (probably the best EF-S lens to date)

Agreed. And I among countless others own the 10-22, another fantastically built EF-S lens.


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