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Dec 29, 2009 08:30 |  #16

Just get on dpreview.com and look at the results. It didn't look like the T1i was really better than the XSi. I picked the XSi because I don't want video and felt for the price, the XSi was a steal.


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Dec 29, 2009 08:32 |  #17

hpulley wrote in post #9282193 (external link)
This keeps coming up... T1i's 3200 ISO is very useable over the XSi's 1600,

actually the XSi can go to 3200 ISO just like the other models, just shoot in RAW and bump the exposure up in photoshop, with the 500D, 50D, etc. it's just done in the camera - not post processing!
But overall I like the added features of the T1i/500D so if the price was right I would get that over the XSi/ 450D




  
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Dec 29, 2009 09:15 |  #18

Yes, bigger buffer or the processor, not sure if that's connected or separate. Strangely the T1i has a longer JPEG buffer than pretty much any other Canon EOS camera (only the 5D2 has a deeper JPEG buffer) but for Raw, 9 is not really enough. Again, for sports where I find the T1i is not quite up to it, deep Raw buffer, higher fps and faster AF I'm looking at a 1D these days, though I did consider the 40D and the 7D would be a great overall upgrade from the T1i since it has video too or the 1D Mark IV while I'm dreaming. Too many choices...


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Dec 29, 2009 09:17 |  #19

watt100 wrote in post #9282210 (external link)
actually the XSi can go to 3200 ISO just like the other models, just shoot in RAW and bump the exposure up in photoshop, with the 500D, 50D, etc. it's just done in the camera - not post processing!

Edit: It is true, don't listen to me...


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Dec 29, 2009 09:25 |  #20

egordon99 wrote in post #9281930 (external link)
Can't speak for the 50D, but the Xsi obviously beats the 40D in resolution, and in my informal tests I find it beats the 40D at ISO1600. Both fall to cr*p at 3200 though. The Xsi is a great imaging tool. At lower ISOs, the Xsi produces amazing images (WITH more pixels than the 40D)

+1 to this comment. Its the reason why back in january i went with the xsi over the 40D. Not to bash the 40D but egordon put it best. If i was you i would get a refurb xsi kit. Shoot with the kit a lot and figure out what you like to shoot before investing in extra lens. You might figure out you like to shoot wide a lot or that you always find yourself zooming a lot.The kit will help you with figuring it out. The kit 18-55 IS, which comes bundled with the xsi is an amazing piece of glass for its price. I was able to get beutiful pictures out of it. Just look at my flickr account. The Citi field stadium pictures and earlier shots came off that combo.


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Dec 29, 2009 09:38 |  #21

hpulley wrote in post #9282370 (external link)
This is NOT true. It is NOT the same. I did this with my T1i, shooting 12800 gives me the best low light performance. The increased gain done IN THE CAMERA gives you a level you cannot get by boosting 3200 ISO which is 'native'. I really wish people would stop repeating this fallacy. If you don't believe me then try it on a camera with extended HI ISO values in near darkness and you'll find it is true. I can post examples if people are interested though I should probably put it in another thread.

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Dec 29, 2009 10:50 |  #22

hpulley wrote in post #9282370 (external link)
This is NOT true. It is NOT the same. I did this with my T1i, shooting 12800 gives me the best low light performance. The increased gain done IN THE CAMERA gives you a level you cannot get by boosting 3200 ISO which is 'native'. I really wish people would stop repeating this fallacy. If you don't believe me then try it on a camera with extended HI ISO values in near darkness and you'll find it is true. I can post examples if people are interested though I should probably put it in another thread.

IMO the T1i advantages are the video, higher resolution screen, and the ability to simply capture a shot in lower light versus the XSI using the same lens.

With that said i have yet to see any T1i photo taken at ISO 3200 or higher that is worthy of printing & hanging on a wall. Your going to have to jump to the 7D,5D,1D sensor bodys to see nice high iso results.

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Dec 29, 2009 11:02 |  #23

egordon99 wrote in post #9281930 (external link)
Can't speak for the 50D, but the Xsi obviously beats the 40D in resolution, and in my informal tests I find it beats the 40D at ISO1600. Both fall to cr*p at 3200 though. The Xsi is a great imaging tool. At lower ISOs, the Xsi produces amazing images (WITH more pixels than the 40D)


HUH? I guess you don't know what your talking about....

I had XSi for 1 year, then sold it and bought 40D and it is far better camera in every way.... ISO 1600 on XSi was not usable, I didn't like it at all, while on my 40D I use it all the time and sometimes use ISO 3200. Its much better camera, bigger, heavier, and has magnesium body (while XSi is plastic) and the shutter sound is a lot quieter then in XSi, plus 40D has 6.5 FPS while XSi has 3.5.

40D is by far a lot better camera, even though it has only 10.1MP while XSi has 12.2MP not a big difference.


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Dec 29, 2009 11:14 |  #24

I'm kind of in the same situation as well, currently I have an XTi and looking to upgrade.

I know what i do want in an upgrade: liveview, improved AF, larger lcd, better high iso, and a bump in resolution. The only two lenses I shoot with are 17-55 IS and the Sigmalux. Video, at this point, is a moot feature for me.

The XSi seems to be a great camera, but so does the T1i. Ignoring the video on the T1i, does it just come down to resolution between the two?


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Dec 29, 2009 11:54 |  #25

I had to make the same choice. It's up to you. I needed video. If you don't, get the XSi.


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Dec 29, 2009 11:58 |  #26

formulaJP wrote in post #9283072 (external link)
I'm kind of in the same situation as well, currently I have an XTi and looking to upgrade.

I know what i do want in an upgrade: liveview, improved AF, larger lcd, better high iso, and a bump in resolution. The only two lenses I shoot with are 17-55 IS and the Sigmalux. Video, at this point, is a moot feature for me.

The XSi seems to be a great camera, but so does the T1i. Ignoring the video on the T1i, does it just come down to resolution between the two?

I hope you read the previous messages. The LCD resolution is also higher on the T1i, the ISO is higher, the Raw and JPEG buffers are deeper.


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turbo_911 wrote in post #9283011 (external link)
HUH? I guess you don't know what your talking about....

I had XSi for 1 year, then sold it and bought 40D and it is far better camera in every way.... ISO 1600 on XSi was not usable, I didn't like it at all, while on my 40D I use it all the time and sometimes use ISO 3200. Its much better camera, bigger, heavier, and has magnesium body (while XSi is plastic) and the shutter sound is a lot quieter then in XSi, plus 40D has 6.5 FPS while XSi has 3.5.

40D is by far a lot better camera, even though it has only 10.1MP while XSi has 12.2MP not a big difference.

x2... I loved my Xsi, but I also didn't BS myself about her limits..or the T1i's for that matter.


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Dec 29, 2009 12:26 as a reply to  @ MichaelBernard's post |  #28

IMO the 40D is a very nice body and was one of Canon biggest all time sellers like the XSI was and still is ! :p

With that being said i dont ever expect to visually see any dramatic increase in IQ & sharpness until i move-up to the 5DMKII so in reality the differences between the XS to the 50D is merely features.

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Dec 29, 2009 12:26 |  #29

egordon99 wrote in post #9281930 (external link)
Can't speak for the 50D, but the Xsi obviously beats the 40D in resolution, and in my informal tests I find it beats the 40D at ISO1600. Both fall to cr*p at 3200 though. The Xsi is a great imaging tool. At lower ISOs, the Xsi produces amazing images (WITH more pixels than the 40D)

right, obviously the XSi (450D) has better image resolution and ISO performance than the old 40D




  
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Dec 29, 2009 12:33 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #30

The XSi w/ Kit Lens is a steal at $460 and with Bing cash back. A friend of mine just pulled the trigger on one. I convinced him to sell his Nikon D60 and get the XSi instead (So wrong of me I know). :D


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