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Canon 35mm f2 vs Sigma 30mm f1.4 vs Canon 24 f2.8

 
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Dec 29, 2009 13:08 |  #31
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bobbyz wrote in post #9283426 (external link)
So the Sigma 30mm f1.4 won't work on 1dmk3? I remember taking some test shots with it on my 1dmmk2 and it had no problems.

It fits - it's an EOS mount - but it give insane vignetting, which makes it pretty useless.


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Dec 29, 2009 13:10 |  #32

bobbyz wrote in post #9283426 (external link)
So the Sigma 30mm f1.4 won't work on 1dmk3? I remember taking some test shots with it on my 1dmmk2 and it had no problems.

There were some tests posted a bit back, do a search for them if you are interested. In my recollection, it was very usable from f1.4-f2.8 and then some vignetting started creeping in big time. Of course you could always crop out a view similar to a 1.5x crop view at any aperture.


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Dec 29, 2009 16:01 |  #33

mickeyjuice wrote in post #9283747 (external link)
It fits - it's an EOS mount - but it give insane vignetting, which makes it pretty useless.

I must be using the wrong Sigma as I just bought one and it works without any problem on my 1dmk2. Not much vignette. I only tested it at f1.4 to f4.0.


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Dec 29, 2009 16:35 |  #34

The only problem with the canon 24mm 2.8 is that's 2.8!
I mean that there are good zooms with that f2.8 ... Tamron 17-50 f2.8, now also VR!
I don't know if canon 24 @ 2.8 is sharper tahn Tamron 17-50 @ 24 @ 2.8...

Anyone????




  
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Dec 29, 2009 16:51 |  #35

Enrico81 wrote in post #9284963 (external link)
The only problem with the canon 24mm 2.8 is that's 2.8!
I mean that there are good zooms with that f2.8 ... Tamron 17-50 f2.8, now also VR!
I don't know if canon 24 @ 2.8 is sharper tahn Tamron 17-50 @ 24 @ 2.8...

Anyone????

I don't own that Tamron, and quite frankly, I'd get the Canon 17-55 before getting the Tamron - it's just my personal preference since I know with my luck, it's best to choose the safest path.

Perhaps those who owns both the 24/2.8 and 17-55 or 17-50 could comment on which one is sharper.

But I'm pretty certain, that the 24/2.8 is the cheapest, smallest and lightest. :D
Also, I read many users said that the 24/2.8 is the sharpest among the WA primes for common folks: 20/2.8, 28/1.8 - deliberately leaving out fantasy lenses such as 24/1.4L II, T&S, etc


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Dec 29, 2009 16:58 |  #36

I know that between 20 2.8 and 28 2.8 the 24 2.8 is the better...

http://www.photozone.d​e …st-report--review?start=1 (external link)

but between 24mm and tamron 17-50 @ 24 it seems it's better the Tamron...

http://www.photozone.d​e …st-report--review?start=1 (external link)

So I would like to know other's opinion about this comparison...




  
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Dec 29, 2009 17:01 |  #37

However I think that the sigma 30 mm is better because of its f1.4...
I know that it's not the sharpest at 1.4 but I think that own a 1.4 lens let you do new and different pictures...I hope...




  
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Dec 29, 2009 18:13 |  #38

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …&SampleComp=0&F​LI=1&API=0 (external link)

Check out the corner resolution, note that the 24/2.8 was tested with FF body - which only means, corner will be a lot crisper on Crop.


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Dec 29, 2009 18:16 |  #39

Let's make no mistake about it, the 35mm f2 is a quick at focus, honestly and satisfyingly quick. It is light and I have gotten some of the sharpest and best low light shots on my 1.6x and 1.3x bodies in my career.


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Dec 29, 2009 19:42 |  #40

I've also gotten some great results with my 35 f/2. Even thought I purchased the Sigma f/1.4, I'm keeping the Canon as a back up lens (and it only cost me $200 used). Here's some samples from the Canon 35 f/2:

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To hell with Canon and their over-priced "L" lenses.

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Dec 29, 2009 20:23 |  #41

Photon Phil wrote in post #9285513 (external link)
Let's make no mistake about it, the 35mm f2 is a quick at focus, honestly and satisfyingly quick. It is light and I have gotten some of the sharpest and best low light shots on my 1.6x and 1.3x bodies in my career.

Yep, no mistakes there. Between the 35/2 and 24/2.8, 35/2 wins. This is generally the consensus everywhere. I wish I had gotten it instead of the 24/2.8, but the only thing pushing me towards the wider one was concern of framing with crop body. Sigma 30/1.4, on the other hand, is always love/hate reviews.

Those are some great shots with 35/2, how close were you to the fighter? was it a crop image?


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Dec 29, 2009 21:00 |  #42

Enrico, you are looking at 2 good choices. The tests and reviews have had good things to say about the Sigma 30 lens, but as you say, there is an open question about quality control and sample variation. My personal opinion is that most owners are satisfied and the real difference is in focal length and in objective diameter.

I personally own the Canon 35mm f/2 and have a great deal of good experience with it. I would prefer the extra 5 mm of focal length over the extra f stop range for my personal use.

Sample images of the Canon 35mm f/2 are here:

http://www.pbase.com/g​oodlistener/image/1206​44628 (external link)


and an extensive gallery of night photos, all hand held with the 35mm f/2 are here:

http://www.pbase.com/g​oodlistener/frederick0​7 (external link)

The Canon 35mm sells for a lower price than Sigma, but that is not because of quality, its because of design. The Sigma has a larger size end of the lens and so it contains a larger physical quantity of optical glass - which is expensive. This is not to say one is better than the other with more or less glass, just to say the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 costs more for a valid reason.

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Dec 29, 2009 21:16 |  #43

bigpow wrote in post #9285066 (external link)
Perhaps those who owns both the 24/2.8 and 17-55 or 17-50 could comment on which one is sharper.

But I'm pretty certain, that the 24/2.8 is the cheapest, smallest and lightest. :D
Also, I read many users said that the 24/2.8 is the sharpest among the WA primes for common folks: 20/2.8, 28/1.8 - deliberately leaving out fantasy lenses such as 24/1.4L II, T&S, etc

I own both, but I've never done a direct comparison. Maybe I should :) Both are some of the best examples of their type out there.

As you mentioned, the obvious stuff, the 24 2.8 is cheaper, and way way smaller. Its a great performer and that's why I've held onto it for so long, and don't plan on getting rid of it.

The Sigma 30 1.4 gets some crappy reviews. Obviously it can be a good lens based on what people have been saying, but it seems like quality control is very lacking. You'd need to be careful buying one to make sure you get a good copy.


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Dec 29, 2009 21:21 |  #44
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Citizensmith wrote in post #9286591 (external link)
The Sigma 30 1.4 gets some crappy reviews. Obviously it can be a good lens based on what people have been saying, but it seems like quality control is very lacking. You'd need to be careful buying one to make sure you get a good copy.

Or make sure you know how to use it, because an AWFUL lot of the shallow DOF "problem lenses" appear to actually be user error.


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Dec 29, 2009 21:27 |  #45

Like picturecrazy's, my Sigma 30 1.4 was perfect right out of the box.


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