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Event shooters - how do you use a flash when bouncing is not an option?

 
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Jan 11, 2010 07:34 |  #1

I ask because yesterday I shot an event where bouncing was nearly impossible. The ceiling was dark AND there were these large, dark "partitions" hanging down about 3-4 ft from the high ceiling, effectively creating pockets for the light to be trapped in. Walls were brick or painted dark too. Natural lighting was all over the place - from the daylight spilling in floor to ceiling windows at one end, to dark red "club" lighting only 30ft away on the other side of the room.

Having said all of that, I did bouce my flash behind me (although what the light was reflecting off of, I'll never know) and got ok pics. Most needed to be pushed in post and the WB was way off, but I shot RAW so no worries.

So, what do you do when bouncing is not a viable option?


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Jan 11, 2010 07:37 |  #2

A small white card with one red line and a bunch of light blue lines on it. The card is approximately 3 inches wide and 5 inches tall.

Or I pull out the catch-light panel a little bit.


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Jan 11, 2010 08:37 |  #3

Situations like that, I try to get one or more QFlash or ABs into a corner aimed at the ceiling or even into the room and then use the on-camera flash for fill with a Demp Flip-it.


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Jan 11, 2010 08:52 |  #4

Anyone using camera-mount mini-softboxes, like this one from Photoflex?....

http://www.photoflexli​ghtingschool.com …aits_on_the_Go/​index.html (external link)


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Jan 11, 2010 10:09 |  #5

versedmb wrote in post #9370652 (external link)
Anyone using camera-mount mini-softboxes, like this one from Photoflex?....

http://www.photoflexli​ghtingschool.com …aits_on_the_Go/​index.html (external link)

The difference between the shot with and without the softbox doesn't even seem worth the hassle/weight/cost of that setup.


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Jan 11, 2010 10:15 |  #6

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The difference between the shot with and without the softbox doesn't even seem worth the hassle/weight/cost of that setup.

That's kind of what I thought, just curious as to users experiences with this. ;)


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Jan 11, 2010 11:00 |  #7

Check out some of LumiQuest products: http://www.lumiquest.c​om/products.htm (external link),

or DIY: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=485903.



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Jan 11, 2010 11:00 |  #8

I've never used one -but it's on my wish list, a gary fong light sphere would probably help in these situations. http://store.garyfongi​nc.com/lsc-01.html (external link)


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Apr 25, 2010 23:53 |  #9

White card is best option I believe because it's easy. The fong dong works but it too clumsy and the results arent even as good. The softbox on camera is worthless in a dark enviroment. Now get the softbox off camera and it's fine.. As a rule direct flash on camera even with a softbox in a dark enviroment is not much different than bare bulb flash. HIGH ISO is your friend.




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Apr 26, 2010 01:54 |  #10

How does one use the white card, just point the flash straight up still?




  
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Apr 26, 2010 04:24 |  #11

jdang307 wrote in post #10066053 (external link)
How does one use the white card, just point the flash straight up still?

Yes. I have a medium and the huge 'a better bounce card' and the big one is awesome for outside or for like a gym or church with high ceilings. I've also made several diy bounce cards, and done the same.

I point the flash straight up, and use the big card to throw some light at the subject...


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Apr 26, 2010 05:32 as a reply to  @ snakeman55's post |  #12

In such situations, I just go direct or direct diffused with the Lumniquest Big Bounce.


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Apr 26, 2010 05:41 |  #13

I use OCF have an assistant holding a stand with a flash and an umbrella, or i hold it in my hand a foot or two to one side with a white card.



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Apr 26, 2010 05:50 |  #14

I've used OCF with a stand and a DIY diffuser on the flash.




  
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Apr 26, 2010 07:10 |  #15
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I'v got one of these umbrellas coming in the post any day now...
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