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Jan 10, 2010 02:02 |  #1

I'm thinking about picking up a 300mm f4 non-is as I can get one for a few hundred less than the IS version used. I don't expect to use this lens handheld, so the only drawbacks tome are age and non-servicability. I've read many reviews that put the IQ better than the IS.

Can anyone vouch for the reliability of this lens long term? Any thoughts on the matter? Lens will be used for outdoor sports and theater on the 50D.


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Jan 10, 2010 07:12 |  #2

I've not heard of any issues with the older lens. Mine is looking rather "used" and slightly battered but works perfectly.

It's a great lens for outdoor sports, assuming it's not too dark. AF is quick and accurate and it's very good even wide open. I'm not sure any f/4 lens would be ideal for theater, but it's hard to say without knowing your light levels (a tripod will stabilise the camera, but won't help with subject movement).


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Jan 10, 2010 14:55 |  #3

Yeah, I know it's not ideal for theater, but I can't drop $3000-4000 on the 2.8, and the 200 is just a little short for our theater. It's mainly for choir (not show choir) so the singers aren't moving too much so I figure it will work.


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Jan 10, 2010 15:02 |  #4

How about a used Sigma 300mm f/2.8? I don't see how a 300mm f/4 could be worth the money for you, when you got a 70.20mm f/2.8? Put your x1.4TC on that and you have 280mm f/4. Why spend so much money on a lens that will only give you 20mm more at the same f-stop? I would save up and get a 300mm f/2.8, then you would see a real difference.


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Jan 10, 2010 15:20 |  #5

I just figure the IQ will be better on the 300L rather than the Sigma with the 1.4x. If it's not, I can resell it (probably for a profit). The Sigma 300/2.8 doesn't come up too much on CL or here, but I'm waiting for one to come up with a good deal. In the meantime, I want to try out the 300L since I can get it for a good deal.


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Jan 10, 2010 15:31 |  #6

Yeah the 300L will have better IQ, I just don't think the difference will be worth it :) But if the deal on the 300L is so good that you can sell it again with a profit, then I don't see any reasons why not to buy it :)


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Jan 11, 2010 06:23 |  #7

I've had mine since they first came out and have never had a problem. In spite of it's age, this is one of my sharpest lenses. My only complaint is the relatively long minimum focusing distance. Until something happens to it, I don't see any reason for me to upgrade.




  
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Jan 11, 2010 06:43 |  #8

I've had two and now have the 300/2.8 nonIS. Great lens. Much lighter ad small, thus easier to handle than the 2.8. I also tried a Sigma 100-300f4, which was also much heavier than the 300/4. It too was very sharp as well and may be another alternative. Also agree with others, though f4 will be too slow for the choir/theater. I do think IQ will be considerably better than the 70-200+TC combo. Also lighter.


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Jan 11, 2010 08:43 |  #9

The 300mm f/4 will have better IQ than any of the 200mm possibilities with extenders or converters. If the IQ is important to you, then its certainly worth the money. However if your only going top save $200 by getting the non IS version, I would then fork over the extra $200 for the IS version.




  
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Jan 11, 2010 09:18 as a reply to  @ nightcat's post |  #10

Another thought regarding the IS version

Although my 70-200mm f/4L IS lens functions very well using a 1.4x TC and achieves quite satisfactory AF and IQ, the IQ of my bare 300mm f/4L IS lens beats the 70-200mm + TC combination.

The IS version has a closer MFD (1.5 m.) than the non-IS version (2.5 m.).

I don't know the image ratio capability of the non-IS version but, my IS model can get to 1:4.2 alone and can achieve a 1:3 image ratio with my 1:4x TC. This makes the IS version a very nice long focal length close-up lens that has IS capability. I like mine for shooting little fluttery critters like butterflies.

To me, the IS and MFD would be worth an extra $200.


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Jan 11, 2010 09:48 |  #11

I have the 300mm non-IS lens and use it handheld all day long for shooting wildlife and I never miss the IS, The only thing I don't like about it is the 8 foot minimum focusing distance. Mine also looks like it's been through a war from previous owners, but still shoots like the day it was new.


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Jan 11, 2010 10:40 |  #12

Sports you don't need no IS. 300mm f4 non IS from what I hear is very sharp. Much better than any zoom with 1.4xTC. People who talk about using TCs on zooms probbaly never shot with primes. The AF is so much better not to mention the picture quality.


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Jan 11, 2010 11:23 |  #13

I also was going to mention the MFD. The difference in MFD is worth the price difference to get the IS version, for what I do anyways.


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Jan 12, 2010 15:36 |  #14

I love mine. It's probably the sharpest lens I have.




  
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